Subject: Mail digest
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 20:34:49 +0200 (METDST)

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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Ragtime -Reply
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:42:23 -0500


>>>  08/19/99 11:45pm >>>

>Mandy is Tateh.  Definitely see the movie.  Mandy is very >good, but the =
movie is not faithful to E. L.  Doctorow.  >Tateh's character is undevelope=
d and edited to death.   It >must have been a disappointing experience for =
Mandy.

I agree that the movie was unfaithful to Doctorow - mainly because it took =
one story, the Coalhouse Walker saga, to develop and let the others take =
very much peripheral roles. However, within that limitation, Mandy's part =
is nothing to complain about, and I can't imagine him being disappointed =
about it, unless the script as given to him was a lot more faithful to =
Doctorow, and his part really WAS curtailed in the editing room, which I =
never get a sense of when I watch it. Anyway, on the plus side for him was =
that it was his biggest part thus far in a movie, and an utterly winning =
and eye-catching one at that (well, it caught MY eye back in 1980, though =
it was 3 years before "Yentl" grabbed some of my other body parts). He =
made an adorable and totally endearing Tateh (Fran Drescher is his wife), =
and as usual with MP, his scenes with the little girl are a joy. Though =
the mystical connection between his little girl and Mother's little boy is =
not in the movie, the connection between Tateh and Mother isn't, and the =
scene in which he dances with her and does that THING with his eyelashes =
is one of my favorites.

>Mandy would be perfect in the musical.  Is Peter Friedman >still in the =
role?

I saw the play shortly after it opened, and though Friedman was wonderful, =
I couldn't help listening to his songs with Mandy in mind. It would be so =
cool if some day, when he does a *normal* album, he'd record one or two of =
Tateh's songs.

DR

Lin


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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Mandymention in Phila Inquirer (another one:)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 10:48:04 -0800


At 12:51 PM -0400 8/19/99,  wrote:
>As for his Emmy nod for guest-star performance, Patinkin got the word
>while in Williamstown,
>Mass., to catch a play. His date for the ceremony will be Gideon.
>
>Says Dad: "He made me promise, because he wanted to see all the people
>from Frasier.">>

I wonder if Mandy is going to both ceremonies.  I am not sure that the
"people from Frasier" will be at the August 28 ceremony.  (Perhaps when
Mandy made this comment to the reporter, he didn't even know which ceremony
his award category is presented at.)

phantm
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Ragtime -Reply
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 21:13:10 EDT


In a message dated 8/20/1999 1:42:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[email protected] writes:

<< 
 >Mandy would be perfect in the musical.  Is Peter Friedman >still in the 
role?
  >>


Actually Michael Rupert is playing the role now on Broadway (I saw him 
perform the role in DC). Michael Rupert was the original Marvin in Falsettos 
on Broadway, which is the role Mandy eventually stepped into during the run. 
Small world.

--C

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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Mandy List Concert Fund
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 21:17:09 EDT

Hi all

The Fund is up to $10-----are we gonna make it to $4- trillion plus $1?

--C

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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Mandy List Concert Fund
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 21:26:45 EDT


In a message dated 8/19/99 7:21:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] 
writes:

<< Concert Fund Goal" $40 Trillion plus $1 (we have to outbid Maui)
 Contributions so far: $4 >>

Well, shoot, I'll be a Big Spender. Put me down for -- oh -- five bucks. I'm 
sure that won't hurt the grocery budget.

Wait! How much is Breyer's Vanilla these days?



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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Amherst concert
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 21:36:38 EDT

In a message dated 8/19/99 9:21:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[email protected] writes:

<< There's more, but that was the important part.  At least it was postponed 
for a good reason!! >>

Plus, now I have a good idea of where he's gonna be -- only about 40 miles 
north 

Note to self:  Wash stalking clothes (don't forget WonderBra). Pack really 
big flashlight. Set aside bail money.

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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Mandy List Concert Fund
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 19:41:47 -0700


If I could have Mandy sing to me in my house (preferably in the bedroom)
I'd rob every bank in the Midwest! So if that can be arranged, put me
down for 1 Trillion dollars- Laurie

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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Amherst concert
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 19:49:52 -0700


[email protected] wrote:
> 
> > Plus, now I have a good idea of where he's gonna be -- only about 40 miles
> north 
> 
> Note to self:  Wash stalking clothes (don't forget WonderBra). Pack really
> big flashlight. Set aside bail money.

(LOL) I love it! Laurie

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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Mandy List Concert Fund
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 22:10:20 EDT

In a message dated 8/20/1999 9:28:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[email protected] writes:

<< < Concert Fund Goal" $40 Trillion plus $1 (we have to outbid Maui)
  Contributions so far: $4 >>
 
 Well, shoot, I'll be a Big Spender. Put me down for -- oh -- five bucks. I'm 
 sure that won't hurt the grocery budget.
  >>


Ok--the Fund is now at $15!!! plus $1 trillion of Lin (?) can rob a bank.

good work!!

--C

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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Mandy List Concert Fund
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 20:34:50 -0700


[email protected] wrote:
> 
> > 
> Ok--the Fund is now at $15!!! plus $1 trillion of Lin (?) can rob a bank.
> 
> good work!!
> 
Hey C,
Not Lin- me-(Laurie) Lin is far too shy (she can keep the car running
for me!) Laurie

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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Mandy List Concert Fund
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 22:46:09 -0400 (EDT)


At 10:10 PM 8/20/99 EDT, you wrote:
>In a message dated 8/20/1999 9:28:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
>[email protected] writes:
>
><< < Concert Fund Goal" $40 Trillion plus $1 (we have to outbid Maui)
>  Contributions so far: $4 >>
> 
> Well, shoot, I'll be a Big Spender. Put me down for -- oh -- five bucks. I'm 
> sure that won't hurt the grocery budget.
>  >>
>
>
>Ok--the Fund is now at $15!!! plus $1 trillion of Lin (?) can rob a bank.
>
>good work!!
>
>--C
>

I was going to say, that at a dollar a pop, everyone on this planet would
have to kick in a buck, and then the concert would be really really
overcrowded!  But if Lin is going to up the ante, that'll make it easier.  

Brenda
Brenda W. Clough, author of HOW LIKE A GOD from Tor Books.
http://www.sff.net/people/Brenda


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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Mandy List Concert Fund
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 22:47:04 EDT


In a message dated 8/20/1999 10:41:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[email protected] writes:

<<  
 > Ok--the Fund is now at $15!!! plus $1 trillion of Lin (?) can rob a bank.
 > 
 > good work!!
 > 
 Hey C,
 Not Lin- me-(Laurie) Lin is far too shy (she can keep the car running
 for me!) Laurie
  >>

well I know it was one of you "L" girls!!

--C

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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Mandy List Concert Fund
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 23:01:17 EDT


In a message dated 8/20/99 9:19:27 PM, [email protected] writes:

<< Ok--the Fund is now at $15!!! plus $1 trillion of Lin (?) can rob a bank.

good work!! >>

LOL!  It's Laurie who's going to become the bank robber.  But we live only 5 
minutes from each other, so she'll probably force me to be her accomplice!

Lin

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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Amherst concert
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 20:08:20 -0800

At 9:36 PM -0400 8/20/99,  wrote:

>Plus, now I have a good idea of where he's gonna be -- only about 40 miles
>north 
>
>Note to self:  Wash stalking clothes (don't forget WonderBra). Pack really
>big flashlight. Set aside bail money.

LOL.  I'll keep watch for you as you hop the fence.  Hell, I'll jump over
with you and we can sneak into Mandy's trailer.  (Then we can both call
"The Eel" to bail us out.)

phantm<--can walk to Mandy's workplace from where I live

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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: A life of crime awaits you.....
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 20:58:19 -0700

Hey Lin,
You're getting all the credit for being willing to rob all the banks of
the midwest! Maybe you should be the one- you look a lot more
'respectable' than I do! Just keep the goal in mind- that'll make it
easy! Laurie

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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Mandy List Concert Fund
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 21:02:04 -0700

<<
>  > Ok--the Fund is now at $15!!! plus $1 trillion of Lin (?) can rob a bank.
>  >
>  > Hey C,
>  Not Lin- me-(Laurie) Lin is far too shy (she can keep the car running
>  for me!) Laurie
>   >>
> 
> well I know it was one of you "L" girls!!
> 
> --C
"L" as in lewd? (you got that right!) Laurie

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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Mandy List Concert Fund
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 23:07:40 EDT

In a message dated 8/20/99 9:46:53 PM, [email protected] writes:

<< Not Lin- me-(Laurie) Lin is far too shy (she can keep the car running
for me!) Laurie >>

I'm too shy?  Ah, Laurie, who brazenly threw her arms around Mandy this past 
April 21?  OK, so you did, but only after you watched ME do it!

Lin 

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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Mandy List Concert Fund
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 21:11:21 -0700

[email protected] wrote:
> 
> I'm too shy?  Ah, Laurie, who brazenly threw her arms around Mandy this past
> April 21?  OK, so you did, but only after you watched ME do it!
> 
> Lin

I stand corrected- you can be quite the wanton woman- Laurie

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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: off:  Cinderella
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 23:29:05 EDT

My daughter is obsessed with the Rogers and Hammersteins play Cinderella 
since I took her to see a local production a few weeks ago.  We borrowed the 
Lesley Ann Warren/Stuart Damon (was he ever handsome!) version from a friend, 
and it's copyrighted 1995.  Now, I know it wasn't done in 1995!  Does anyone 
know when that version was originally done?

Robin

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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: off:  Cinderella
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 01:20:33 -0400


Hi Robin:

I have the original video Cinderella with Lesley Ann Warren/Stuart Damon and it
is dated 1986 CBS/FOX on the back.  I loved that movie.  It's kind of like the
Wizard of Oz, can't see it too many times.

Sherry

[email protected] wrote:

> My daughter is obsessed with the Rogers and Hammersteins play Cinderella
> since I took her to see a local production a few weeks ago.  We borrowed the
> Lesley Ann Warren/Stuart Damon (was he ever handsome!) version from a friend,
> and it's copyrighted 1995.  Now, I know it wasn't done in 1995!  Does anyone
> know when that version was originally done?
>
> Robin


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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Machiavellian Mandy in People
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 01:41:26 EDT

Has someone posted this?  Wondering because I can't believe I'm posting 
before TT.  But I don't remember this being posted, so here goes:

>From People, Aug. 30:  Show of the Week:  Strange Justice, Showtime (Sun., 
Aug. 29, 8 p.m. ET)

    "In 1991 the Clarence Thomas-Anita Hill hearings left the country sharply 
divided over whether the Supreme Court nominee had sexually harassed his 
former subordinate.  And the audience isn't likely to reach a unanimous 
verdict on this adaptation of Jane Mayer and Jill Abramson's searching 1994 
book about the case.  Some will criticize director Ernest Dickerson (Juice) 
for his legerdemain with news footage, particularly a Forest Gump moment when 
Delroy Lindo, who plays Thomas, appears to be standing beside President Bush. 
 Some will fault the filmmaker's decision to present the Senate Judiciary 
Committee testimony of Thomas and Hill (Regina Taylor) as stylized 
psychodrama.  Here, when Thomas portrays himself as the victim of a 
"high-tech lynching," he strips off his shirt and turns his necktie into a 
noose.
     But none can deny the strength of the lead performances:  Lindo, proud, 
enigmatic and indignant; Taylor, profoundly human as a woman torn between the 
demands of conscience and the desire for privacy; and a Machiavellian Mandy 
patinkin as Kenneth Duberstein, the spin doctor steering Thomas toward 
confirmation.
     Bottom Line:  Argue about it, but see it."

So, Machiavellian Mandy's part is again being called a "lead".  Kewl.  Shirt 
thing sounds a little bogus, but we'll see.  They've certainly punched up the 
Duberstein part from the book.

Has the "in the car" picture (I think Tanja has it on her site).

:->  Wendy

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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: off:  Cinderella
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 00:45:42 -0500

At 01:20 AM 8/21/99 -0400, Sherry wrote:
>Hi Robin:
>
>I have the original video Cinderella with Lesley Ann Warren/Stuart Damon and it
>is dated 1986 CBS/FOX on the back.  I loved that movie.  It's kind of like the
>Wizard of Oz, can't see it too many times.

Well, these are obviously video release dates. The actual production must
have been shown in the early sixties (I vaguely remember it, and how long
has it been since Lesley Ann Warren looked so un-hard-bitten?) ;)

DR


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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Boyzone
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 14:11:35 +0200

This has nothing 2 do with this list,but I have 2 ask!
Has Ronnan Keating left Boyzone?
Nina


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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: off:  Cinderella
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 10:02:34 -0400

At 12:45 AM 8/21/99, Diane Rosenfeldt wrote:
>At 01:20 AM 8/21/99 -0400, Sherry wrote:
>>Hi Robin:
>>
>>I have the original video Cinderella with Lesley Ann Warren/Stuart Damon
>>and it
>>is dated 1986 CBS/FOX on the back.  I loved that movie.  It's kind of like the
>>Wizard of Oz, can't see it too many times.
>
>Well, these are obviously video release dates. The actual production must
>have been shown in the early sixties (I vaguely remember it . . (snipped
>to be used later)
>DR

EArly sixties seems about right.  I was a teenager and remember watching
and finding Stuart Damon absolutely gorgeous.

Dinny said >>>how long
>has it been since Lesley Ann Warren looked so un-hard-bitten?) ;)
>

to which I add (for all good General Hospital fans) or Stuart Damon so slim
and handsome.  He still is great at the role he plays, but he has thickened
considerably with age (he's not alone, so have I).

Rene (umm,for those who have the video, go to the very end and check,
because don't the movie credits show a release date?)



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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: off:  Cinderella
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 09:23:43 -0500


At 11:29 PM -0400 8/20/99,  wrote:
>My daughter is obsessed with the Rogers and Hammersteins play Cinderella
>since I took her to see a local production a few weeks ago.  We borrowed the
>Lesley Ann Warren/Stuart Damon (was he ever handsome!) version from a friend,
>and it's copyrighted 1995.  Now, I know it wasn't done in 1995!  Does anyone
>know when that version was originally done?
>
>Robin


Late 50s or early 60s. I saw it before I left the country in 66.

Kendal -- not that that helps much




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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Mandy List Concert Fund
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 10:35:45 -0500

o.k. I am good for 50.00. where are we having this soiree?
Karen

----------
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Mandy List Concert Fund
> Date: Friday, August 20, 1999 09:10 PM
> 
> In a message dated 8/20/1999 9:28:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
> [email protected] writes:
> 
> << < Concert Fund Goal" $40 Trillion plus $1 (we have to outbid Maui)
>   Contributions so far: $4 >>
>  
>  Well, shoot, I'll be a Big Spender. Put me down for -- oh -- five bucks.
I'm 
>  sure that won't hurt the grocery budget.
>   >>
> 
> 
> Ok--the Fund is now at $15!!! plus $1 trillion of Lin (?) can rob a bank.
> 
> good work!!
> 
> --C

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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: off:  Cinderella
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 12:54:52 EDT


Rodgers and Hammerstein's "Cinderella" was originally presented on television 
in 1957 with Julie Andrews.  In 1965 Lesley Ann Warren starred in the remake. 
 Brandy rounds out television's Cinderellas in the 1997 Disney production 
which included songs from other Richard Rodgers' shows ("Falling in Love with 
Love" from Boys from Syracuse {lyrics by Lorenz Hart}--had to give Bernadette 
Peters a showstopper and "The Sweetest Sounds" from No Strings--sung by 
Brandy and Paolo Montalban as the Prince). 

I was 5 in 1965 and remember vividly Lesley Ann Warren, Stuart Damon, Celeste 
Holm, Ginger Rogers and Walter Pidgeon in their roles.  My little girl 
fantasies of princes and princesses, fairy godmothers, and queens and kings 
were made up of images from this show.  And I wanted a dress just like the 
one Cinderella wore to the ball!

Lin

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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: MP:  Excerpt from long article about David E. Kelley
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 13:50:52 EDT


TT, which article is this? Do you know if it's online?

TIA.

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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Ragtime -Reply
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 13:58:51 EDT


In a message dated 8/20/99 10:42:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] 
writes:

<< He made an adorable and totally endearing Tateh (Fran Drescher is his 
wife),  >>

::::shudder::::

Ewwwwwwwww ... this just makes me ill every time I remember it. Not MP as 
Tateh -- but FD as his *wife.*

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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: MP:  Elmo Stuff
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 14:28:30 EDT

Not that I'm not fasinated by the Cinderella discussion  ;-) .... but I did a 
websearch for Elmo (yes, I know, get a life)

Didn't find any nice new Mandy photos, but found a couple of interesting 
tidbits - plot summary and fact that there's a CD ROM game out on it.  You 
don't suppose the evil Huxley made the CD ROM do you?  It didn't say.

http://www.movieweb.com/movie/elmogrouch/

<>

http://206.239.8.214/cdshop/desc/p.074299241383.html

<>

Other info. on associated games (here's a chance to indoctrinate your kids, 
moms):

http://www.geocities.com/~reviewcorner/psreviews.html

New Kid Co. has announced a new PlayStation title for preschoolers coming in 
the fall, and based on the upcoming movie entitled The Adventures of Elmo in 
Grouchland. The game will be for kids aged 3-6, and will have kids directing 
Elmo through Oscar's trashcan world in search of his blanket. It will also be 
available for the GameBoy.

Official Elmo site from E! On Line:

http://www.spe.sony.com/movies/jump/elmoingrouchland.html  

This site does have a click on Mandy's name link that gives you his movie 
history and links you to a place (Reel.com) where you can purchase videos.

Of course, there's Tanja's site which actually has photos!!!   
http://www.cosmoslink.net/~phantm/elmoet.html

:->  Wendy

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