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Subject: concert on 11/19
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:31:15 -0400
I didn't know anything about a Mandy concert on that date at State
theatre in NJ. What's the scoop? Judith
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Subject: Re: off: Cinderella
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:29:34 -0500
At 10:53 PM -0400 8/23/99, [email protected] wrote:
>In a message dated 8/21/99 10:26:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
>[email protected] writes:
>
>> Late 50s or early 60s. I saw it before I left the country in 66.
>>
>On stage? Or TV?
>
>Robin, who thanks all who've responded
I saw the Julie Andrews TV production in the late 50s that others have
mentioned. Suppose it was black and white -- certainly our TV set was.
The only strong recollection I have is of a song entitled Do I Love Her
Because She's Beautiful (Or Is She Beautiful Because I Love Her) that I
thought was good enough to survive ... but don't think it did. I even
remember some lyrics:
Do I love her
Because she's beautiful
Or is she beautiful
Because I love her
Is she the sweet enchantment
Of a lover's dreams
Or is she really
As beautiful as she seems.
As Noel Coward wrote ... strange how potent cheap music can be.
KB
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>>> Kendal D Butler 08/24/99 12:29pm >>>
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thought was good enough to >survive ... but don't think it did. I even =
remember some >lyrics:
Show-off. (You been hanging out with Jen? ;))
"Survive" in what sense? I know it survived to be sung in the Warren/Damon =
version, and in a wider sense, other singers sometimes perform it. Don't =
think Smashing Pumpkins has recorded it or anything, though.
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Subject: Re: off: Cinderella
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:57:25 EDT
In a message dated 8/24/99 12:33:17 PM, [email protected] writes:
<< The only strong recollection I have is of a song entitled Do I Love Her
Because She's Beautiful (Or Is She Beautiful Because I Love Her) that I
thought was good enough to survive ... but don't think it did. I even
remember some lyrics:
Do I love her
Because she's beautiful
Or is she beautiful
Because I love her
Is she the sweet enchantment
Of a lover's dreams
Or is she really
As beautiful as she seems.
As Noel Coward wrote ... strange how potent cheap music can be.
KB
The complete lyrics:
Do I love you because you're beautiful?
Or are you beautiful because I love you?
Am I making believe I see in you
A girl too lovely to be really true?
Do I want you because you're wonderful?
Or are you wonderful because I want you?
Are you the sweet invention of a lover's dream?
Or are you really as beautiful as you you seem?
I got the lyrics from "The Singer's Musical Theatre Anthology." These
volumes are generally thought to be the best published arrangements of such
music for trained voices. So yeah, this song has survived and is, IM (not so
humble) O, romantic and lovely.
Lin
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Subject: Re: off: Cinderella
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:14:31 -0400
Hi Robin:
For some reason, I thought I had emailed you this information, but =
maybe I didn't. Anyway, on the video tape that I have of Rodgers & =
Hamerstein's CINDERELLA with Stuart Damon and Lessley Ann Warren (in =
color), it has two dates. The date on the bottom is the release of the =
video which was 1986 CBS/FOX Company (which I purchased from Playhouse =
Video many years ago).=20
At the top of the video, it has CINDERELLA (Color, 1964). By this, I =
understand that the movie originally came out on TV in 1964. The tape =
later came out on video in 1986. Hope this helps. =20
Sherry
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Date: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: off: Cinderella
>In a message dated 8/21/99 10:05:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, =
[email protected]=20
>writes:
>
>> to which I add (for all good General Hospital fans) or Stuart Damon =
so slim
>> and handsome. He still is great at the role he plays, but he has =
thickened
>> considerably with age (he's not alone, so have I).
>
>When I originally saw it, probably in 1986, as Sherry suggests, he was =
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Cinderella. =20
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: re: Mandy in New York Times: Strange Justice
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:19:26 -0700 (PDT)
I must be confused, but if MP is portraying a real person, shouldn't he
try to convey what that person was feeling instead of his own agenda.
Obviously MP is putting his own political bias and agenda forth here.
I'd like to know how he knows the *truth* when he wasn't there.
Renee- thinks MP should stick to acting and singing instead of
pontificating on impossible to know *truths*
--- [email protected] wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The Times ran an article on Strange Justice
> today---not a review just an
> article. Here are the Mandy parts:
>
> By BERNARD WEINRAUB
>
> HOLLYWOOD -- What more is there to say about the 10
> days of riveting Senate
> confirmation hearings in October 1991 whose two main
> participants -- Clarence
> Thomas and Anita Hill -- seem, even now, enigmas?
>
> Much more, say the makers of "Strange Justice," a
> Showtime movie that has its
> premiere next Sunday.
>
> The movie stars Delroy Lindo as Justice Thomas and
> Regina Taylor as Ms. Hill.
> Mandy Patinkin also plays a central role, as Kenneth
> Duberstein, a Washington
> insider who had been hired by President George Bush
> to lead the political and
> public relations campaign for the nomination.
>
>
> At the center of the real-life drama, as depicted in
> the film, was
> Duberstein, a likable, shrewd moderate Republican
> consultant who had been a
> chief of staff in the Reagan White House. He handled
> the Thomas nomination
> for the Bush administration. "With Duberstein, we
> tried to find the moral
> center, the person holding the different pieces
> together," Epstein said.
>
> As portrayed by Patinkin, Duberstein had his own
> doubts about Thomas'
> veracity, but he remained a good soldier. "I didn't
> try to play -- or be --
> the real Ken Duberstein," said Patinkin, a familiar
> Broadway performer who is
> also returning to the television series "Chicago
> Hope" this fall. "I was
> playing an individual who was hired to do a big job.
> And in the course of
> that, the individual realized that the person he
> represented was lying."
>
> None of the actual participants in the Clarence
> Thomas-Anita Hill story have
> seen the film or participated in the making of it.
> Patinkin said Duberstein
> had sent him a friendly letter offering to meet, but
> Patinkin refused.
>
> "The last time I was asked to play a historical
> figure was in the film
> 'Heartburn,' where I was playing Carl Bernstein,"
> said Patinkin. "I met with
> Carl and with Bob Woodward. And then Mike Nichols,
> the director, fired me and
> hired Jack Nicholson, whom he wanted from the very
> start." He laughed. "It
> was not on my agenda ever again to meet the
> historical person I was to play."
>
>
> ---C
>
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To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: off: Cinderella
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:14:38 EDT
..and whatever happened to the original Cinderfella..wasn't it jerry Lewis?
Wouldn't Mandy be great in that?
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To: [email protected]
Subject: re: Mandy in New York Times: Strange Justice
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:37:03 -0400 (EDT)
At 02:19 PM 8/24/99 -0700, you wrote:
>I must be confused, but if MP is portraying a real person, shouldn't he
>try to convey what that person was feeling instead of his own agenda.
>
Not exactly. What he should be trying to convey (and I assume he succeeds)
is what the scriptwriter was putting forth as the agenda. Now, the
scriptwriter certainly should research and so forth, and if he didn't, bad
cess to him. But it's not the actor's job to second guess the writer.
I gather from what I've read about the production that it's kind of arty and
not supposed to be exactly historical anyway.
Regards,
Brenda
Brenda W. Clough, author of HOW LIKE A GOD from Tor Books.
http://www.sff.net/people/Brenda
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To: [email protected]
Subject: re: Mandy in New York Times: Strange Justice
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 18:14:09 -0400
At 02:19 PM 8/24/99 -0700, Renee Jorgensen wrote:
>I must be confused, but if MP is portraying a real person, shouldn't he
>try to convey what that person was feeling instead of his own agenda.
Maybe this will help a little -- on my web site, I have excerpts from a
press conference held with the stars, director, and producer of Strange
Justice. Mandy talks some about how he came to portray his character as he
did. One thing he said was, "I did not play a historical figure, and I did
not play Ken Duberstein. I played a character named Ken Duberstein."
There's much more - some of it rather rambling - seems Mandy babbles too.
If you'd like to read more from that transcript (and see a few more photos
from the film), just go to my web site and click on the "Updates to Site,"
and you'll find the links there.
-Char
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Mandy Patinkin - High Flying Adored
http://home.att.net/~mosert/char/mandy.htm
"The blood, sweat, tears, and joys of my past
make up the compositions that create the music of my heart....."
Mandy Patinkin
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Mandy in New York Times: Strange Justice
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 19:31:00 EDT
In a message dated 8/24/99 3:30:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< seems Mandy babbles too. >>
What? Mandy babble? Couldn't be..............
What? Mandy have strong artistic feelings about a character? Couldn't
be.........
Sharon
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: People Magazine
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 21:01:52 EDT
I do hate to stray from the riveting conversation about Cinderella but I came
across a wonderful picture of Mandy in People Magazine today. Its the issue
that dons Julia Roberts and Richard Gere on the cover. The short article is
about Strange Justice and speaks highly of the lead actors performances, one
of which is * my baby my honey * Mandy!
KJ
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: off: Cinderella
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 21:05:45 EDT
In a message dated 8/24/99 2:20:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
<<
..and whatever happened to the original Cinderfella..wasn't it jerry Lewis?
Wouldn't Mandy be great in that?
>>
LOL oh Nag..... you have such a clever way of showing displeasure! I myself
was just about ready to come out and say "May we please move on ...... How
about Sleeping Beauty for subject matter ? "
Sincerely,
Grumpy
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To: [email protected]
Subject: Laura's Quote for the Day
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 21:05:21 EDT
Jeffrey: "Geri, I'm gonna be awhile here.............what can I do for you?"
Geri: "I want us to sleep together."
Jeffrey: (pierces the heart clean through with the blade) "Well, it's a
good thing he was already dead!"
Geri: "I'm sorry. But I know you, once you're inside someone's chest, "how
'bout lunch" doesn't catch your attention."
from the Ch episode Freeze Outs
Laura :)
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To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Laura's Quote for the Day
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 20:28:31 -0700
[email protected] wrote:
>
> Jeffrey: "Geri, I'm gonna be awhile here.............what can I do for you?"
>
> Geri: "I want us to sleep together."
>
> Jeffrey: (pierces the heart clean through with the blade) "Well, it's a
> good thing he was already dead!"
>
> Geri: "I'm sorry. But I know you, once you're inside someone's chest, "how
> 'bout lunch" doesn't catch your attention."
>
> from the Ch episode Freeze Outs
> Laura :)
>
Laura,
Great to see these back! You picked one of my very favorite episodes to
showcase today (Freeze Outs). I wonder how many times during the kissing
scene she blew her lines... and how many times were on purpose? Laurie
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: MP--Hooking up Showtime
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 21:55:23 -0500
Hey Guys-
Just had to let you know that in honor of Strange Justice starting on
Showtime on the 29th..we are officially purchasing and dish and it is being
installed on the 26th. I forced the dish company come by the 29th so as to
see "the man" in action. We had to get a dish to get Showtime and no
expense is to small for Mandy. So when my hubby asked what the rush was I
just pointed to my desk...(full of Mandy photos and items)... and he said
"oh...so I better not protest this one huh???" He knows when to back
off.....HAHAHA
So I will be enjoying the premiere with all the rest of you guys....I LOVE
MY DISH COMPANY!!! HAHA
Kari C...going to check out the new people mag that came in the mail today!!
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Laura's Quote for the Day
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 20:00:22 -0700 (PDT)
I really liked the character of Jeri Infante, well until the last
episode, then I hated her. I wish TPTB hadn't made her such a traitor.
It would have been good to have had that relationship develop into
something. I read (probably here) that Lauren Holly is playing a
plastic surgeon named Jeremy. Is that name supposed to have
significance?
Renee
--- Laurie wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
> >
> > Jeffrey: "Geri, I'm gonna be awhile
> here.............what can I do for you?"
> >
> > Geri: "I want us to sleep together."
> >
> > Jeffrey: (pierces the heart clean through with
> the blade) "Well, it's a
> > good thing he was already dead!"
> >
> > Geri: "I'm sorry. But I know you, once you're
> inside someone's chest, "how
> > 'bout lunch" doesn't catch your attention."
> >
> > from the Ch
> episode Freeze Outs
> > Laura :)
> >
>
> Laura,
> Great to see these back! You picked one of my very
> favorite episodes to
> showcase today (Freeze Outs). I wonder how many
> times during the kissing
> scene she blew her lines... and how many times were
> on purpose? Laurie
>
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: idea for new role
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 20:05:25 -0700 (PDT)
I have an idea for a new role for Mandy... Does anyone remember a show
with Howard Duff and Ida Lupino? They were married and I think they
were detectives but kinda bumbling ones. I think that would be perfect
for Mandy. Not that I think he's bumbling (lest I get blasted) but it
could be a very funny show. Especially if DK were writing it.
Renee
--- [email protected] wrote:
> In a message dated 8/24/99 2:20:46 PM Pacific
> Daylight Time,
> [email protected] writes:
>
> <<
> ..and whatever happened to the original
> Cinderfella..wasn't it jerry Lewis?
> Wouldn't Mandy be great in that?
> >>
> LOL oh Nag..... you have such a clever way of
> showing displeasure! I myself
> was just about ready to come out and say "May we
> please move on ...... How
> about Sleeping Beauty for subject matter ? "
> Sincerely,
> Grumpy
>
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: re: Mandy in New York Times: Strange Justice
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 22:31:56 -0500
At 5:37 PM -0400 8/24/99, Brenda and Larry Clough wrote:
>At 02:19 PM 8/24/99 -0700, you wrote:
>>I must be confused, but if MP is portraying a real person, shouldn't he
>>try to convey what that person was feeling instead of his own agenda.
>>
>
>Not exactly. What he should be trying to convey (and I assume he succeeds)
>is what the scriptwriter was putting forth as the agenda. Now, the
>scriptwriter certainly should research and so forth, and if he didn't, bad
>cess to him. But it's not the actor's job to second guess the writer.
>
>I gather from what I've read about the production that it's kind of arty and
>not supposed to be exactly historical anyway.
>
>Regards,
>Brenda
There's a good review of the show in Salon at
http://www.salonmagazine.com/ent/col/mill/1999/08/23/justice/index.html
Doesn't say anything about Mandy but does give a good sense of the production.
Kendal
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: CNN Article
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 21:53:09 -0700
phantm wrote:
>Check out
>
>http://cnn.com/SHOWBIZ/TV/9908/23/patinkin.lat/index.html
(aside to KJ....don't read this trivia...it may push you over the top)...
I loved the picture with the CNN article so I saved it to my computer. They
called it patankin.jpg
How famous does the guy have to be before his name gets spelled correctly?!
We should make CNN watch the "Officer George" episode of Sesame Street
where he teaches Big Bird how to pronounce his name!....Carol
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: People Magazine
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 00:55:21 EDT
In a message dated 8/24/99 7:08:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Cmgdrama writes:
<<
is this just the part in the review section? or is there more?
>>
Its in the "Picks and Pans " section, and is spotlighted as "show of the week
"
Mandy looks really cute he has a wonderful suit on, glasses, the other two
actors are in the shot as well, looks like a shot from the movie.
KJ
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: MP: CH Article in today's New York Times (long)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 08:16:11 -0500
August 25, 1999
'Chicago Hope': Faltering Drama, Heal Thyself
By JAMES STERNGOLD
LOS ANGELES -- If the producers of the loopy comedy =
"South Park"
were to make a medical drama, it might go something =
like this:=20
An attractive female surgeon, heading to work on her first =
day at a major
hospital, cheerfully asks a woman on the street for =
directions but is warned:
"Oh, I wouldn't go there. They'll kill you there!" Then the =
hospital's new
president jogs into a staff meeting and, in a scene that =
takes precisely 25
seconds, fires most of the doctors. When they go to court to =
get their jobs
back, the judge angrily instructs their lawyer to tell his =
clients he's a toad,
then corrects himself, "a big toad." Oh, and the nine-hour =
operation to
remove an inoperable brain tumor from a 9-week-old baby is a =
success.=20
This is not "South Park." It is "Chicago
Hope," or rather, the new "Chicago
Hope." That was the plot line of the
last episode of the spring, and it was,
to put it mildly, a harbinger of changes
to come in the direction of a fairly
traditional and slowly dying one-hour
drama that CBS is attempting to
resurrect from last year's ratings
slump. It is a highly unusual gamble,
not unlike operating on an inoperable
tumor.=20
Prime-time television series are
tinkered with all the time. This fall, for
instance, the British comic Eric Idle, a
"Monty Python" alumnus, is joining the
cast of "Suddenly Susan," Heather
Locklear is coming to "Spin City," and
"Two Guys, a Girl and a Pizza Place"
is being renamed "Two Guys" and moved out of its pizza parlor. But
executives at CBS and the 20th-Century Fox studio, which produces
"Chicago Hope," said that to the best of their recollection no major
prime-time drama had been reinvented so suddenly.=20
"Chicago Hope" is, in effect, being hit with a triple heart bypass,
electroshock therapy, multiple organ transplants and a fashion makeover, in
the form of new producers, a new writing staff, the replacement of nearly half
the cast -- among the incoming actors are Barbara Hershey, Mandy
Patinkin (who was on the show in its first couple of seasons), Carla Gugino
and Lauren Holly -- and a new time slot, not to mention new opening titles
and new theme music.=20
These are desperate times in network television, with audiences and profits
dwindling rapidly. The show's radical overhaul reflects the depth of the
anxieties rippling through the industry. None of the major networks, CBS
included, have produced a hit one-hour drama recently. (The most Emmy
nominations for a drama this year were for "The Sopranos," which is on
HBO, a cable channel.) But in CBS's view "Chicago Hope" has a few strong
points that make the experiment worthwhile.=20
The size of the show's audience has tumbled from a peak of an 11.9 rating
and a 20 share in 1995-96 to a 7.5 rating and 13 share last season,
according to Nielsen Media Research. (Each rating point represented
994,000 homes last season; share is the percentage of homes watching
television tuned to that show.) But "Chicago Hope" has been on the air
since the fall of 1994, and it is already being rerun on the Lifetime channel.
Thus there is high name recognition and at least a modest base of viewer
interest to build on, rather than starting from scratch in a glutted market in
which new shows have been doing poorly.=20
Perhaps more important, "Chicago Hope" has a star who is assuming a
more active role: no, not one of the doctors in scrubs, but the show's
creator, David E. Kelley, who is the hottest writer and producer in television.
After Kelley started "Chicago Hope" in 1994 he moved on, as is common,
and created his current successes, "Ally McBeal" and "The Practice." This
fall he has two new shows, an edited-down half-hour version of the one-hour
"Ally," and a show about private detectives, "Snoops."=20
Seeing signs that "Chicago Hope" was headed toward cancellation, Kelley
approached people at CBS early last spring and said he would become a
hands-on producer again if they would give the show another chance. The
network was initially lukewarm but finally agreed.=20
The situation reflected another reality of network television: producers can
earn much more money creating new shows than sticking with old ones. As
an executive producer, a veteran can earn $1 million or so a year, but a
producer who creates a new show that catches on can earn tens of millions
of dollars, not to mention a multimillion-dollar deal with a studio to create
more shows.=20
The two executive producers who had run "Chicago Hope" for several
seasons, John Tinker and Bill D'Elia, said they had begun to pull back from
day-to-day involvement in the series last season because they wanted to
concentrate on developing new shows. They said they were not unhappy
about being replaced as executive producers this year, because it allowed
them to put all their efforts into the three ideas they were pitching the
networks.=20
"The show needed some major changes, and we realized we weren't the
guys to do that again," said D'Elia. "We had our development deal, and that
was what John and I wanted to focus on."=20
Kelley made the changes as he swept back in from the other shows he had
developed. He wrote the jolting season-ending episode as well as a rather
unconventional opening episode for this fall in which a Roman Catholic
priest's sex organ is bitten off during a robbery then surgically reattached,
and an elderly man dies in the recovery room after liposuction while his
surgeon trades stocks on the Internet. Naturally the doctors also perform a
near-miracle in saving a boy on the operating table whose damaged heart is
spewing blood.=20
"By design I wanted to send a wake-up call that the show will be very
different," Kelley said.=20
He is not planning to produce more scripts himself, he added, but will
supervise the writing and offer suggestions on future scripts, giving "Chicago
Hope" his continuing creative imprimatur, a major incentive for the network.=20
"Perhaps the most important thing is his involvement," Leslie Moonves, the
president of CBS Television, said of Kelley's new role. "I'm aware he has a
lot on his plate. But it's a little bit of a promotional thing.
If a talent like David
Kelley comes in and pitches you a hospital show, how do you say no?"=20
Sandy Grushow, the president of 20th-Century Fox Television, put it more
directly: "If David Kelley were not in the mix and had not pledged to do what
he said he would do, this wouldn't have happened."=20
Even so, CBS has very modest expectations for the show. Moonves made it
clear that he was hoping for, at best, a slight jump in "Chicago Hope's"
share of the market. In other words, the networks, with the sharp declines in
their share of the viewing audience, rarely expect the kind of 20- and
30-share hits that used to be common. They are now delighted with what in
football terms would be called "three yards and a cloud of dust."=20
"I'm not looking for a turnaround," Moonves said. "We specifically put it in a
place where a 14 share will be good, very good. Our expectations are not
big. With a point or two increase in share, we look great." He added, "It's a
new era."=20
The show is also going against a powerful trend of vying for a young
audience, generally the 18-to-34-year-old age group. None of the changes
this season are expected to focus on that fickle audience, and the show's
new time slot -- Thursday nights at 9, starting on Sept. 23 -- puts it opposite
NBC's blockbuster evening of sitcoms, which attract young, largely male
viewers.=20
"Part of our mandate is to attract more older viewers," said Henry Bromell,
one of the new executive producers for "Chicago Hope" and the head of its
writing team.=20
The show has been star-crossed from its first broadcast, on Sept. 18, 1994.
It was scheduled that fall on Thursday nights opposite another medical
show, NBC's "E.R." That was unfortunate because "E.R." went on to
become one of the most celebrated and successful dramas on television,
leaving "Chicago Hope" deep in its shadow.=20
It then began a hapless peregrination around the CBS schedule. At one
point it found what seemed a solid home on Monday nights but was bumped
for a new drama, "Brooklyn South," in 1997. When that show failed, another
new drama, "L.A. Doctors," took the Monday slot, leaving "Chicago Hope"
on Wednesdays with no strong show in front of it to bring in an audience.=20
Meanwhile the show's plot lines began to drift in odd directions. "Chicago
Hope" had been conceived as a story of a hospital: the last, best hope, in
the words of Kelley. The focus was intended to be the frontiers of medicine.
But over the past couple of seasons the doctors themselves and their
tangled personal lives took center stage.=20
Dr. Kate Austin, played by Christine Lahti, wanted to become an astronaut
until she damaged her knee in an accident. Dr. Dennis Hancock (Vondie
Curtis-Hall) became a social activist and a politician. Dr. Billy Kronk (Peter
Berg) went to Africa to do research.=20
"It was almost bordering on a soap opera," said Michael Pressman, who
directed the pilot episode in 1994 and has been brought back as one of the
executive producers.=20
All three of those characters, and a few others, were summarily let go in last
spring's bloodletting, and Kelley said the show was careering back
essentially to what it had been originally. While "Chicago Hope" will still
seek to create compelling characters and stories, "my focus is on the field
of medicine," said Kelley. "The hospital will be the biggest character on the
show."=20
Bromell said the doctors would rarely be seen out of their scrubs. "I want to
see these characters only as they manifest themselves at work," he said.
"The more you separate these characters from the workplace, the less
interesting they become, not more."=20
Patinkin played the brilliant, abrasively egotistical Dr. Jeffrey Geiger in the
first several seasons before leaving to focus on his family and singing
career. Dr. Geiger is now the hospital's president, the one who fired most of
the old staff in last season's closer, but Patinkin said he would never have
considered coming back were it not for Kelley's personal intervention.=20
"He said he wanted to bring back the ensemble feeling to the show,"
Patinkin said. "Our old show got swept away. I feel like we're getting back to
where it was before that happened."=20
Some of the remaining actors said they suffered from survivor's guilt, as
Adam Arkin, who plays the warmhearted Dr. Aaron Shutt, put it. Hector
Elizondo, who plays the hospital's chief of staff, Dr. Phillip Watters, said he
even considered quitting.=20
But on a recent afternoon the team was on the set, bantering comfortably
between shots and, Elizondo said, taking some comfort in the fact that at
least the crew was the same.=20
"This is not a secure moment," said Pressman. "It's a complete unknown
how this show will do."=20
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: ok
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:02:16 +0200
What do u ppl c in Stuart Damon!?
Nina
I understand-Mandy-good looking, charming, intelligent, warm, gentle,
adorable, talented....garanted all this even in some old ages....!But
-Stuart Damon!?
Nina
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: ok OFF
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 10:47:37 EDT
In a message dated 8/25/99 7:05:50 AM, [email protected] writes:
<>
why, my dear, he is ALan Quartermaine, of course!!!!!
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: New Musical - OT
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 10:56:14 -0500
At 2:07 PM -0400 8/24/99, wrote:
>In a message dated 8/18/99 5:13:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
>[email protected] writes:
>
><< *Exclusive Offer to Playbill On-Line Club Members*
> Christopher Walken, Blair Brown, Daisy Eagan,Sally Ann Howes,John
>Kelly,Marni Nixon,Alice Ripley,Emily Skinner,and Stephen Spinella have all
>just confirmed to head the cast of "James Joyce's The Dead", a new musical
>play by celebrated playwright Richard Nelson and acclaimed Irish composer
>Shaun Davy. The show will be presented in its World Premiere at Playwrights
>Horizons' intimate 140-seat theatre for six weeks only from October 1st
>through November 14th. Tickets available to the general public will be
>Extremely limited >>
This is a joke, right? A musical of Joyce's The Dead? (I resent those
quotation marks. Somehow "James Joyce's The Dead" is a hell of a lot more
offensive than "John Grisham's The Firm." Maybe next they could do
"Jahweh's The Bible.") With those nine people scheduled to "head the cast"?
So who are the bit players going to be? Bernadette Peters and Whatshisname?
Sally Ann Howes AND Marni Nixon?
This thing sounds weird enough that Mandy SHOULD be in it.
Kendal
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