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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:40:43 EST
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Just my additional thoughts on last night's pathetic episode:
1) Cancel this show and put us all out of our misery
2) The writing is SO lame, that even good actors are making it sound bad.
The dialogue is like something out of 'Days of our Lives'
3) I loved Lauren Holly in Picket Fences and Barbara Hershey was O.K. in
Beaches, but as these characters stand today, they may as well dump them. If
they're trying to give the nod to more women in the hospital, it ain't
workin. As much as I HATED Kate's character, Christine Lahti did a yoeman's
job of making it work wherever she could. These two actresses are totally
disengaged
4) Lose Mark Harmon. He obviously doesn't care much, and neither do the
writers
5) Make up your mind about Aaron and Gina. They go from a few minor
conversations and wistful looks to her yowling about how '...but this is
AARON, we're talking about here...like it's the love of her life and everyone
knows it.
6) If we want the writers to put Jeffrey back in perspective, I think we all
need to bombard the CBS website with email. Though, I'm not sure these
writers know how to craft the character. Clearly, they HAVE been watching
the old episodes, since they've stolen from them, but I don't know that they
have the skill to recreate Jeffrey
7) note to writers regarding plot theft (IRS audit of Aaron...old. Plague
think...been there, done that. Guy with branch through his chest...see
episode with metal stake through the guy's head). Can't we come up with
something NEW? If not, see item 1 in this mailnote
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Subject: Yesterday's CH....(Long)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 07:02:08 PST
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Hi all,
this episode was a waste of time. As someone said previously, it is very
stupid to see two or three patients die in the minutes that they get sick,
and then Aaron and Francesca have all the time to get cured. That doesn't
make sense (but is there any sense in this season so far...?).
I just found what is the thing i hate the most in the show, apart from bad
writing: the continuously-moving camera. I know this is something that is
intended to make more action or suspense or whatever, but it's very
annoying. As i already said before, i only seen the first two seasons, half
of the third, some episodes from seasons 4 and 5, and all season 6 so far,
and the thing that made me love the first seasons was the story, not the
"always-moving-because-there's-no-plot-and-that-makes-the-impression-there's-is-some-action"
camera, and because there was a plot back then, the camera was not moving..
I hate when it always moves like it's doing now. In the scene between Stu
and Phillip, yesterday, there was no need for that type of camera moves, but
it was there, and i couln't concentrate on what they said because it moved,
moved, moved, and never stopped.
ER is doing this, and i know that CH is doing it for a long time, but why?
In the hope of attracting young audiences that wants some action? I'm young
(22) and i don't need this.
Last night episode was not great, and i want that Aaron and Gina get
together fast, because it's becoming annoying. And Aaron was between death
and life, couln't they call Camille? (OK, sorry, it's just that i really
miss her).
I think that Geiger is a genius. He knows that this hospital is falling
into pieces, that the doctors are looking like zombies not knowing where
they're going. He's appearing sometimes to help, to resolve problems, but
he's not involving himself in this mess. He's watching from the outside,
this hospital, the one that we all love, destroy itself.
That's what Mandy's doing with the show: he's watching it dying...
BTW, what was the official news: will there be 13 episodes or 20-something?
Bye,
Poutchy
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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:25:16 EST
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Poutchy:
two comments: 1) the moving camera was an ER thing, first. I can only
assume that CH adopted it because they thought it would draw in a younger
audience...one raised on MTV. However, you are right, it doesn't replace
good writing and it is distracting, 2) I have not heard that CBS has asked
asked for anything beyond the initial 13 episodes and, with th efact that
they are not using their strongest episodes (unless they consider last night
a strong episode) during sweeps, and that they didn't even air the show last
week during the first week of sweeps, it doesn't seem like CBS has much
interest left in the show. We'll see what happens. I LOVE seeing MP, but
wish they would kill this thing and let the actors move on to do better work.
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Subject: Re: Thoughts on Last Night's PATHETIC Episode
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:45:00 EST
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In a message dated 11/12/99 6:42:53 AM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected]
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<<
Just my additional thoughts on last night's pathetic episode:
>>
Maybe all you guys should post your messages on CH Board..and better yet,
write to the show with your comments. They say email doesn't impact as much
as snail mail. Maybe something will change..but no one can do anything on
this list about it!! just MHO.
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Subject: Re: Thoughts on Last Night's PATHETIC Episode
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:48:21 EST
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In a message dated 11/12/99 10:45:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, Smittynag
writes:
<< Maybe all you guys should post your messages on CH Board..and better yet,
write to the show with your comments. They say email doesn't impact as much
as snail mail. Maybe something will change..but no one can do anything on
this list about it!! just MHO. >>
Smitty: That's exactly why my original mailnote included the suggestion that
we all write to CBS via their website.
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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 08:41:03 -0800
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It was a federal building in a major metropolitan area, why wouldn't they choose it?
Illinois is part of the midwest. It is hard to do a plague story in 45 minutes,
which, when you take out the commercials is about what you have. They had to come to
some resolution, so how can it not looked contrived?
Lauren wrote:
> I have a random thought to add. By the way, I especially agree with 4, 6, and 6a.
> ;)
>
> My thought? As happy I as was that Aaron survived, I thought it a mite odd that
> with the first few fatalities, the people were proclaimed dead (by Rocky Carroll)
> just after they began bleeding from the nose and mouth. Aaron (and Alberghetti
> and the dad), however, had the same symptoms, but somehow kept living (?) long
> enough to receive the miracle cure.
>
> Oh, and two other thoughts: 1. I am getting really sick of the relationship--or
> lack thereof--between Aaron and Gina. I like him and I like her, and if the
> writers plan to get the two together they should simply go ahead and do it. 2.
> Why would a random radical group in the midwest--that the FBI has been
> after--choose an IRS building in Chicago? And it took the FBI all of ten minutes
> to trace the aerosol can to the group. Wow.
>
> Where *is* David E. Kelley? He obviously is not writing this stuff. If he's
> writing this, then a ghostwriter is doing Ally McBeal, because it's a heck of a
> lot better than CH.
>
> Lauren
>
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> > 1. This was done much better in 1971. It's called The Andromeda Strain.
> > 2. Plot remake alert. Fortunately I have a short memory.
> > 3. Someone tell Lauren Holly to lose the eyeliner. It's like, so 15 minutes
> > ago.
> > 4. Mark Harmon needs to zip it. And keep it zipped.
> > 5. There's an episode of The Big Valley where an anthrax epidemic is sweeping
> > the area and this prize bull is dying from it and Heath gives him the
> > antidote and in minutes he's up and around. Didn't believe it then either.
> > 6. I missed Jeffrey, even if they're writing him as a two-dimensional
> > nutcase.
> > 6a. If I ever do meet David Kelley, he's got some explaining to do about this
> > season,
> > and
> > 7. What I can't get out of my head is that, all bitching and grousing aside,
> > it could happen. Anytime, anywhere. Could've happened yesterday. Lovely world
> > we have here. Sweet dreams, everyone.
> >
> > Karen (promising to be in a better mood next time!)
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I think Lauren Holly could be a good addition if they gave her something to
do. Having watched her since her AMC days, I know she can do well. She is
just being given kind of fluffy drivel.
[email protected] wrote:
> Much to my disappoint, our Mandy wasn't on here CH, last night!
>
> This is the first time I ever fell asleep during a CH show ;-(
>
> Looks like Mary Ann was right, according to the previews, it looks like he
> will be on next week ;-). Actually doing surgery ;-)
>
> I am grateful that Adam Arkin, didn't bite the dust ;-)
>
> I truly don't think that Lauren Holly adds anything to the show, am I the
> only one?
>
> Anxiously waiting for next Thursday.
>
> Patty
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>>> Molly Chvilicek 11/12/99 10:41AM >>>
>It was a federal building in a major metropolitan area, >why wouldn't =
they choose it? Illinois is part of the >midwest. It is hard to do a =
plague story in 45 minutes,
>which, when you take out the commercials is about what >you have. They =
had to come to some resolution, so >how can it not looked contrived?
This suggests to me that they shouldn't have attempted it. Which would =
have been a good thing. I can only look back to its predecessor "Quarantine=
" - which, for all its being a set-piece situation, never actually seemed =
contrived.
DR
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Subject: Mandy on CH Next Week
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 13:05:21 EST
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Dear friends of CH:
Although Mandy was deeply missed in last evenings run of CH, he will be on
next weeks episode. From the coming attractions it might be a good one.
Laura K.
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Laurie's right--I forgot all about the arch supports! When he put on his
tennis shoes after the Mamaloshen part of the concert, he took the supports
out of the dress shoes he'd been wearing and put them in the tennis
shoes--Liz
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People with back problems often wear these. No big deal. It also helps to
support your balance and your body when you are standing a lot. Just taking
care of the equipment, I think!
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Subject: Re: Concerts in Clinton Township and East Lansing, MI---Long
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:18:19 -0500
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Actually, I don't feel bad about it at all. It just strikes me funny, how
when people on here bitch about anything, someone always throws WWMD
(What Would Mandy Do?) in our faces, like he'd be so ashamed that any fan
of his might think a not-nice thought about another of his fans. Whereas
he's saying and doing obnoxious things to his OWN fans all the time! ;-)
Jen
On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:17:00 EST [email protected] writes:
>In a message dated 11/11/99 6:44:14 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>[email protected]
>writes:
>
><< LOL!!!! Oh, that Mandy can be such an ass! See, he chastises a
>stranger
> who sends him a gift through her service dog, but he's God, and I
>get
> bitched at for chastising strangers who are idiots! ROFL!!!!!!
> >>
>
>Don't feel too badly. Because he interacts with the audience a lot,
>which
>most artists don't, he often makes mistakes in trying to joke about
>something
>when he CAN'T know the entire situation from the stage (like that
>someone is
>blind, or in a wheel chair -- he can't always see that from the
>stage). We
>all do the best we can. I'm sure he was just making a joke. I think
>the
>whole bit with Ike must have been cute to watch, since he loves dogs,
>and
>would have really gotten into this.
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On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:40:43 EST writes:
>1) Cancel this show and put us all out of our misery
Amen. Sorry to say. There's not a whole lot left to the show for me to
care about.
>workin. As much as I HATED Kate's character, Christine Lahti did a
>yoeman's
>job of making it work wherever she could. These two actresses are
>totally
>disengaged
I haven't watched in a while.... Do either of them ever cry? At least
that's something to *do*...
> Clearly, they HAVE been watching
>the old episodes, since they've stolen from them, but I don't know
>that they have the skill to recreate Jeffrey
OK, here's a poll question..... What made us love Jeffrey was his
vulnerability, which he seems to have lost. What made him vulnerable in
the beginning was his love of his schizophrenic wife. So, question:
Should they recycle this plotline, if they're gonna recycle plotlines, I
mean, and give him another "troubled" girlfriend? This wouldn't be so
unrealistic. A very good friend of mine tends to find girlfriends who
need some sort of emotional help, and each relationship ends badly, or
keeps dragging on and on and on, kind of like Jeffrey's and Laurie's. It
wouldn't seem all that improbable that Jeffrey just has this
psychological need to be with a woman who is more screwed up than he is.
Jen
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I second Smitty's motion. Or whatever it was. Snail mail is far more
effective. Too easy to sit on your ass and fire off an email (don't I
know it....) but it takes some effort to get off your ass and buy a stamp
and find a mailbox.
And I remember a few years ago, a bunch of us with a helluva lot of time
on our hands wrote letters to the producers to ask them to change the
theme song back. Which made me laugh even as I did it, because, please.
It's just a theme song. True, the new theme song sucked, but it really
wasn't worth my time to get it changed. I just felt bad for the guy who
wrote the original one and hated the new one.
On the other hand, I really miss the old "Drew Carey" theme song......
Anyway, our efforts didn't work, but word had it that the brass was
impressed with our efforts, with all the snail mail they received about
it.
Feud for Thought,
Jen
On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:45:00 EST writes:
>In a message dated 11/12/99 6:42:53 AM Pacific Standard Time,
>[email protected]
>writes:
>
><<
> Just my additional thoughts on last night's pathetic episode:
> >>
>Maybe all you guys should post your messages on CH Board..and better
>yet,
>write to the show with your comments. They say email doesn't impact
>as much
>as snail mail. Maybe something will change..but no one can do anything
>on
>this list about it!! just MHO.
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In a message dated 11/12/99 11:01:41 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< Laurie's right--I forgot all about the arch supports! When he put on his
tennis shoes after the Mamaloshen part of the concert, he took the supports
out of the dress shoes he'd been wearing and put them in the tennis
shoes--Liz
>>
HAH!!! another flat footer!!! LOL
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Yep, there used to be a defense company here in Ft. Wayne, IN, which
isn't even a major metropolitan area (I just typed "aria"), really, but
it was considered one of the top cities for a possible nuclear attack.
Which was ok by me, 'cause if the US is gonna get bombed, I wanna be
right underneath the sucker. I saw "The Day After"!!
Jen <--- doesn't look good with bumpy green flesh
On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 08:41:03 -0800 Molly Chvilicek
writes:
>It was a federal building in a major metropolitan area, why wouldn't
>they choose it?
>Illinois is part of the midwest. It is hard to do a plague story in
>45 minutes,
>which, when you take out the commercials is about what you have. They
>had to come to
>some resolution, so how can it not looked contrived?
>
>Lauren wrote:
>
>> I have a random thought to add. By the way, I especially agree with
>4, 6, and 6a.
>> ;)
>>
>> My thought? As happy I as was that Aaron survived, I thought it a
>mite odd that
>> with the first few fatalities, the people were proclaimed dead (by
>Rocky Carroll)
>> just after they began bleeding from the nose and mouth. Aaron (and
>Alberghetti
>> and the dad), however, had the same symptoms, but somehow kept
>living (?) long
>> enough to receive the miracle cure.
>>
>> Oh, and two other thoughts: 1. I am getting really sick of the
>relationship--or
>> lack thereof--between Aaron and Gina. I like him and I like her, and
>if the
>> writers plan to get the two together they should simply go ahead and
>do it. 2.
>> Why would a random radical group in the midwest--that the FBI has
>been
>> after--choose an IRS building in Chicago? And it took the FBI all of
>ten minutes
>> to trace the aerosol can to the group. Wow.
>>
>> Where *is* David E. Kelley? He obviously is not writing this stuff.
>If he's
>> writing this, then a ghostwriter is doing Ally McBeal, because it's
>a heck of a
>> lot better than CH.
>>
>> Lauren
>>
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>
>> > 1. This was done much better in 1971. It's called The Andromeda
>Strain.
>> > 2. Plot remake alert. Fortunately I have a short memory.
>> > 3. Someone tell Lauren Holly to lose the eyeliner. It's like, so
>15 minutes
>> > ago.
>> > 4. Mark Harmon needs to zip it. And keep it zipped.
>> > 5. There's an episode of The Big Valley where an anthrax epidemic
>is sweeping
>> > the area and this prize bull is dying from it and Heath gives him
>the
>> > antidote and in minutes he's up and around. Didn't believe it then
>either.
>> > 6. I missed Jeffrey, even if they're writing him as a
>two-dimensional
>> > nutcase.
>> > 6a. If I ever do meet David Kelley, he's got some explaining to do
>about this
>> > season,
>> > and
>> > 7. What I can't get out of my head is that, all bitching and
>grousing aside,
>> > it could happen. Anytime, anywhere. Could've happened yesterday.
>Lovely world
>> > we have here. Sweet dreams, everyone.
>> >
>> > Karen (promising to be in a better mood next time!)
>
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I, for one, would vote for bringing Lorrie back. I wouldn't consider that
recycling plot lines, since it would just be a continuance of a relationship
that was very important to him.
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I'm not sure that I've ever seen him do something obnoxious to a fan.
Perhaps, in ignorance or as a misunderstanding, but then he always does
something like buy them a train set when he discovers his mistake. There's
a big difference between being knowingly rude and making a mistake in an
attempt to be humorous on stage.
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I agree...I was at the show when he said what he said and I in no way took
him to be obnoxious. He was just trying to get Ike to listen to him and,
as we all know, when a trained dog is hearing two people trying to give it
instructions, it can get confused. I know that Erika said after the show
that Ike doesn't listen to anyone else, so that is why she was trying to
help Mandy out, but Mandy had no idea that Ike is like that. And to me,
it didn't seem that Erika was upset by the whole thing. I think she
handled it all very well and so did Ike! It was one of those situations
and it all turned out real well in the end.
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The best I can say is: cancel the show.
Mary Ann
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I totally agree. The writing stinks, the acting stinks even when Mandy is
there it seems as if he isn't.
Also, a thought about last night's show. Jeffrey was supposed to be in
Israel during last night's show. He wanted to know everyone's suit size
because he found a good cheap) tailor in Tel Aviv. I'm pretty sure that if
he purchased suits for everyone the custom fees would probably cost more than
the suits were worth or, more than if they were purchased in the States.
Anyway, at least his name was mentioned.
The best part of last night's show, in my opinion, was Sebastian!
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The best I can say is: cancel the show.
Mary Ann
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In a message dated 11/12/99 5:26:49 PM EST, [email protected] writes:
<< The best I can say is: cancel the show. >>
Amen! Then something good can come from this mess: MORE MANDYCONCERTS!!!!!!!!
Ina
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> In a message dated 11/12/99 5:26:49 PM EST, [email protected] writes:
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> << The best I can say is: cancel the show. >>
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> Amen! Then something good can come from this mess: MORE MANDYCONCERTS!!!!!!!!
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Aint nothin' finer.... Laurie
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> People with back problems often wear these. No big deal. It also helps to
> support your balance and your body when you are standing a lot. Just taking
> care of the equipment, I think!
I didnt know that... Certainly didnt mean anything bad by it- just know
how hungry we get for any tidbits of info on Mandy...I just thought it
was for your feet. Sounds logical, though... maybe I should try some- I
have a bulging disc in my back and work on my feet all day- thanks for
the info! Laurie
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In a message dated 11/12/99 12:30:08 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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<< On the other hand, I really miss the old "Drew Carey" theme song......
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how could you?? Vleveland Rocks is the best!!!
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> In a message dated 11/12/99 5:26:49 PM EST, [email protected] writes:
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> << The best I can say is: cancel the show. >>
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> Amen! Then something good can come from this mess: MORE MANDYCONCERTS!!!!!!!!
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> Ina
That's exactly what we need - more Mandy concerts!!!!!!!
Mary Ann
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In a message dated 11/12/1999 3:30:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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> HAH!!! another flat footer!!! LOL
Uh...not to question the expertise of another Carol, but *I* have very high
arches and have been advised to have additional arch supports for that very
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Carol P.
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Did anyone see the ad on CBS with Mandy regarding
designated drivers? It must have been shot on the CH
set as he had on nice *Geiger* clothes and it said
Mandy Patinkin from Chicago Hope on the bottom of the
screen. Imagine my surprise when I was just ironing
away and just casually glanced at the screen to see
him there. It was his voice that caught my attention
but it seemed lower than usual. Nice ad...
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I saw the ad once. I wasn't expecting it and only caught the end.
He also does the voice over for a cancer drug called Procrit. You can't miss
the voice.
Helaine
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Did anyone see the ad on CBS with Mandy regarding
designated drivers? It must have been shot on the CH
set as he had on nice *Geiger* clothes and it said
Mandy Patinkin from Chicago Hope on the bottom of the
screen. Imagine my surprise when I was just ironing
away and just casually glanced at the screen to see
him there. It was his voice that caught my attention
but it seemed lower than usual. Nice ad...
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Last night episode was not great, and I want that Aaron and Gina get
together fast, because it's becoming annoying. And Aaron was between death
and life, couldn't they call Camille? (OK, sorry, it's just that I really
miss her.)
Poutchy Wrote the above:
I feel exactly the same way. In fact, I was waiting for Camille to come
through the door. Could we all write a mass mailing to CBS, and tell them how
weak their story line is? I can understand Geiger going to Israel, but
buying suits for everyone in the middle of a crisis? Not exactly reality! I
can't believe that our Mandy has let his character reach an untimely demise.
I for one, want the old Hope back, or more realistic writers. The old Hope
had the human touch! We all have voices, let's use them. We are stronger in
masses ;-)
Patty
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BSJAD writes:
Just my additional thoughts on last night's pathetic episode:
1) Cancel this show and put us all out of our misery
2) The writing is SO lame, that even good actors are making it sound bad.
The dialogue is like something out of 'Days of our Lives'
3) I loved Lauren Holly in Picket Fences and Barbara Hershey was O.K. in
Beaches, but as these characters stand today, they may as well dump them. If
they're trying to give the nod to more women in the hospital, it ain't
workin. As much as I HATED Kate's character, Christine Lahti did a yoeman's
job of making it work wherever she could. These two actresses are totally
disengaged
4) Lose Mark Harmon. He obviously doesn't care much, and neither do the
writers
5) Make up your mind about Aaron and Gina. They go from a few minor
conversations and wistful looks to her yowling about how '...but this is
AARON, we're talking about here...like it's the love of her life and everyone
knows it.
6) If we want the writers to put Jeffrey back in perspective, I think we all
need to bombard the CBS website with email. Though, I'm not sure these
writers know how to craft the character. Clearly, they HAVE been watching
the old episodes, since they've stolen from them, but I don't know that they
have the skill to recreate Jeffrey
7) note to writers regarding plot theft (IRS audit of Aaron...old. Plague
think...been there, done that. Guy with branch through his chest...see
episode with metal stake through the guy's head). Can't we come up with
something NEW? If not, see item 1 in this mailnote
My ? is, do we write to Dodger's, and let MP, know how we feel, or CBS. I
have already written to CBS last month, even suggested an interesting plot
for Geiger, (no response). Hey, if U write to Days of our life, at least U
get a canned response!
I know MP, left the show the first time because of conflicting schedules
between his home life and the commute to LA. His heart is in his music, (yes
he is also a great actor).
I think there must be a time when they really count ratings, then air Geiger!
That is pathetic. They use Mandy, then they go and change his character,
ACK! I vote for a mass mailing, just tell me where? Even Hector Elinzondo's
character has been a bit uncaring. I personally think that ER, isn't worth
watching either! I fell asleep during both this week, ACK!
Patty
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Jen Writes"
OK, here's a poll question..... What made us love Jeffrey was his
vulnerability, which he seems to have lost. What made him vulnerable in
the beginning was his love of his schizophrenic wife. So, question:
Should they recycle this plotline, if they're gonna recycle plotlines, I
mean, and give him another "troubled" girlfriend? This wouldn't be so
unrealistic. A very good friend of mine tends to find girlfriends who
need some sort of emotional help, and each relationship ends badly, or
keeps dragging on and on and on, kind of like Jeffrey's and Laurie's. It
wouldn't seem all that improbable that Jeffrey just has this
psychological need to be with a woman who is more screwed up than he is.
Jen
Personally, the screwed up relationship w/his X, gave him something to sing
about?
Plus, I loved all the crazy train scenes, w/him and Aaron, listening to their
pants ;-)
There is so much I miss about this show. I guess all we have left are
reruns, if they ever show Geiger on them. I truly think they want us to
forget the "OLD Jeffrey"!
Patty
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I agree...I was at the show when he said what he said and I in no way took
him to be obnoxious. He was just trying to get Ike to listen to him and,
as we all know, when a trained dog is hearing two people trying to give it
instructions, it can get confused. I know that Erika said after the show
that Ike doesn't listen to anyone else, so that is why she was trying to
help Mandy out, but Mandy had no idea that Ike is like that. And to me,
it didn't seem that Erika was upset by the whole thing. I think she
handled it all very well and so did Ike! It was one of those situations
and it all turned out real well in the end.
Jill wrote the above.
I know a bit about labs, hence my screen name, LOL! (if in fact Ike was a
lab)? He also was a working dog. Working dogs are totally dedicated to their
masters, (who go through long training sessions, w/the dog). Ike couldn't
care less who was giving the command, he would only listen to his master.
These dogs go though 18 months w/much dedicated people who volunteer their
time as walkers. They will take a pup in for approximately 18 months, and go
through the paces, walking them through malls, towns, etc., so they can be
used to all noises, (so they don't spook, when they actually get to their
owner). After 18 months of grueling training, it is not guaranteed that the
dog will be selected for working dog status, in which case it is usually
adopted out. No reflection on Mandy, the dog was just doing his job. Labs
even not trained in this way, have a very strong bond w/their owner, and are
very protective. They are not vicious, friendly by nature, but would take
the bullet for you!
Yes, I have one ;-)
Patty
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