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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 22:25:23 EST
Post Mortem on Thursday Nights show - Seems as though Mandy's part has been
softened up a little. Not only a LARGE portion of the show, but he was
allowed to be human, with feelings! Thank you, David. (or whoever wrote his
part) Maybe our disgruntled attitude got through!
Gwen
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Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 00:19:39 EST
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Per CBS Website, looks like no Hope for 2 weeks. So, what happended to that
great November sweeps crisis episode do you think? Was that it last night?
Or maybe that stupid plague episode last week? No near death experiences for
Alicia?
This week's episode title was "The Heart to Heart". All that great Mandy, as
CBS put up a photo of Aaron with the episode summary. NOT RESPECT!
Oh, did anyone notice last night's ER was titled "Humpty Dumpty" - same as
the Cacachi suicide episode? No imagination.
Spoiler: Dec. 9 Episode "The Golden Hour"
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.
.
McNeil and Shutt, on their way to watch a football game, stop to see McNeil's
bookie and find three people criticially injured by gunfire. With the shooter
still in the building, preventing the police from freeing the hostages, the
trapped doctors use everything they can to try and save their new patients.
No mention of Jeffrey.
*sigh*
He's supposed to be in next ep. shown isn't he, Phantm?
:-( Wendy
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Catholic, Jewish....what does it matter, as long as she grows up guilty?
Jen ---good Catholic girl, ducking into nearest confessional
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"Someone with the initials KJ" berated me:
> A=Avigdor
> B=Bald spot
> C=Corneas
> D=D >>
>
>Jenny Lou ( zzer ) that would have been so FUN in the birthday book
>!!!
>errrg.
If only Jenny J. had come up with idea a few weeks ago! Blame her, not
me!
Jen ---always willing to pass the blame (and the savings) onto you
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On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 11:09:22 EST writes:
>Alisha was going into Kinder. NOW she's 7 yrs old? Was she a late
>bloomer, or what?
This reminds me of "Family Ties," when Elyse gave birth the end of one
season and the beginning of the next, the kid was 5 years old. A 5 year
old was just easier to write for than an infant, so they just expected
the audience to realize it was just a TV show, used for purposes of
entertainment only, and not some sort of historical fact.
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>.... That's the weirdest thing I ever heard
>to have a parent be one religion and a child another. It just doesn't make
>sense.
Uh-oh, what about adopting a child of a different race or having a
child with parents from different races. Or a child of a different
sex. It can get really complicated...Carol
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At 12:19 AM -0500 11/20/99, wrote:
>He's supposed to be in next ep. shown isn't he, Phantm?
I don't believe so. I think MP said he'd appear in #8 (last night's), #11,
#12, and #15. I don't think he has even shot #11 yet. #9 (the next one)
didn't finish shooting until about a week or week and a half ago I think.
(I believe this may be the episode CH shot, sans MP, in downtown LA on
location as late as Nov 8-9.) Unless MP is rushing to town for a couple
of days next week before Thanksgiving, I doubt he'll shoot #11 until after
Thanksgiving. And since he said they are phasing him out, it is hard to
say how much screen time he'll have. He's back in concert on December 13,
so presumably he'll finish 11 and 12 by then.
phantm
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Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 02:00:36 EST
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In a message dated 11/19/1999 7:18:47 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< There are many
families that celebrate both faiths very
successfully.
It can be done. Just takes a little tolerance. >>
My family did just that, as my Dad is Jewish, and my Mom is Roman Catholic.
We learned about both faiths, and celebrated both sets of holidays.
Barbara
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In a message dated 11/20/1999 12:25:03 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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<< Catholic, Jewish....what does it matter, as long as she grows up guilty?
>>
VERY FUNNY!!!!!!!!!
BARBARA
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In a message dated 11/20/1999 12:25:31 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< so they just expected
the audience to realize it was just a TV show, used for purposes of
entertainment only, and not some sort of historical fact. >>
It is so true. We all need to lighten up, here......
Barbara
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In a message dated 11/20/1999 12:32:46 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< Uh-oh, what about adopting a child of a different race or having a
child with parents from different races. Or a child of a different
sex. It can get really complicated...Carol
>>
Well said, Carol.
Life is what happens to you, while you are busy making other
plans.....................
Enjoy your day,
Barbara
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In a message dated 11/19/1999 9:33:48 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< Uh-oh, what about adopting a child of a different race or having a
child with parents from different races. Or a child of a different
sex. It can get really complicated...Carol >>
Even if I adopted a child of a different race, they would still be raised as
my religion. different sex? Do you mean if I had a boy child? huh? About
having parents of different races, the child is always what the mother is.
It's the unspoken rule.
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One thing noted, if I marry someone of a different religion, I have nothing
against the children growing up experiences both religions. If I was a single
parent it would be totally different though.
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Subject: Something to think about
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 02:37:58 EST
>> Somthing to think about ....
Today is November 19th, 1999.
The numerical format for today is 11-19-1999.
All of the digits are odd.
The next Odd day after that will
be 1-1-3111 which is well over
a thousand years away,
which we will never see.
Days such as 4-13-89
have both even and odd digits,
thus, it is neither odd nor even.
The next even day will be 2-2-2000 -
the first one since 8-28-888.
So, now you have a reason to celebrate this Friday
as it'll be your last
odd day on Earth!!!!!
Have a nice odd day! >>
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S is for Stephen and for Sondheim, because thats what i like to hear
mandy sing most of all!
S is also for Sunday In the Park With George, my favorite musical
meytal & ido shpindel wrote:
>
> w- we all love u Mandy!!!!!
> happy thanksgiving :)
> In ISRAEL we will soon have Hanuka.
>
> p.s: p-patinkin ;)
>
> >From: "Monica"
> >To: [email protected]
> >Subject: Re: OFF: Thanksgiving blessings
> >Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 20:23:57 -0000
> >
> >Where are we up to now?
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From:
> >To:
> >Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 7:40 PM
> >Subject: Re: OFF: Thanksgiving blessings
> >
> >
> > > In a message dated 11/17/99 8:55:36 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> > > [email protected] writes:
> > >
> > > << "T" is for togetherness - the way Mandy has brought all of us, from
> >around
> > > the world, together
> > >
> > > SueH
> > > >>
> > > what happened to all the other letters
> > >
> >
>
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if i didnt have sitpwg wo watch over and over i dont know what id do
with all of my free time, and im not even thinking about the cd
meytal & ido shpindel wrote:
>
> hi!
> yep I agree :)
> meytal
>
> >From:
> >To: [email protected]
> >Subject: Taped Concerts!
> >Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 07:41:46 EST
> >
> >That is crazy... there are a lot of people that will never get the
> >chance to see him perform live (for various reasons) and it would win
> >him more fans, not stop people from coming to his shows. Look at all of
> >the video concerts on the market- many of the singers have near sell out
> >crowds when they do tour. True, a live performance is MUCH better, but
> >I'd love to have a video of one of his concerts.. and I know a lot of
> >others feel the same way! Laurie
> >
> >
> >Bravo Lauie, well put!
> >
> >Patty
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I can hear him singing She's Always a Woman To ME, by Billy Joel
[email protected] wrote:
>
> What could be better than Mandy recording some Johnny Mercer Tunes?
>
> I have the CD from Midnight In The Garden of Good and Evil, and the songs, (a
> lot of love songs), are great!
>
> Songs like Skylark, Too Marvelous For Words, Autumn Leaves, This Time the
> Dream's on Me, and Days Of Wine And Roses to name a few.
>
> Patty
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Catholic, Jewish....what does it matter, as long as she grows up guilty?
Jen ---good Catholic girl, ducking into nearest confessional
Jen, I can relate. I don't blame Geiger raising Alicia in the Jewish Faith,
(if that is his intention)! I remember going to religious instructions, and
being threatened w/being stuck w/a hat pin, if the class made one noise, ACK!
I still have nightmares, the one nun looked like the wicked witch in the
Wizard of Oz, (no kidding)!
Hey, Jewish/Catholic. As long as Alicia is happy, and well loved. Of course
she will have to become a heart surgeon, (kidding). I think that Jeffrey is
coming to grips w/his ghosts, and she will be a well grounded individual.
She'll probably change her religion anyway, when she feels the need to
experiment.
Oh yeah, the hat pin was kept up the nun's sleeve! Today, she would be
arrested!
Patty
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In a message dated 11/20/1999 2:11:32 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< In a message dated 11/20/1999 12:25:31 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< so they just expected
the audience to realize it was just a TV show, used for purposes of
entertainment only, and not some sort of historical fact. >>
It is so true. We all need to lighten up, here......
Barbara >>
As I was attempting to say in my last post...the realities of godparents and
adoption aside...these are very detailed and complicated issues, and if the
writers can't get Alicia's AGE right for God's sake...it would seem that we
may as well just accept their mistake as stupidity and explain to ourselves
however we wish within the context of Jeffrey's own reasoning (if we feel we
have to do so). This mistake would not be among those caught by most people
in the audience...however, things like age and Aaron and Francesca being out
and about mere days after they had the plague...well...
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On "Full House" they were using young babies and it worked well, very well. =20
They became older and they still could act. The show creators never seemed=20
to have problems with this. If a show productor or writer or whoever really=20
want young kids in a show, there's always a way to work it out.But if they=20
don't care about the audience who's watching and about their own plot, if=20
they don't believe in their thing, then they throw an older child in the=20
show and the problem is solved. This solution is for the lazy people, who=20
don't want to make efforts by writing a story in continuity with the rest= of=20
the show. That's what is happening in CH. They don't believe in the show=20
anymore, they know that's it's dying, and they writing episodes not for fun=20
of doing it, but because these episodes were requested by CBs, and this is=20
their job, they don't have faith in what they're writing, they write because=20
of the pay checks. Mandy asked them to make his character more happy,=20
softer, and they said "ok, this is our job, we'll write what you ask." They=20
don't have imagination, they watch old episodes and they copy, just like on=20
a computer-copy and paste-it's easy that way. They do their job, they do=20
what is asked of them, write, not think.
Poutchy=AD=AD(who is angry against the lack of continuity, but still love=
s the show, and never will stop loving it)
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On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 11:09:22 EST writes:
>Alisha was going into Kinder. NOW she's 7 yrs old? Was she a late
>bloomer, or what?
This reminds me of "Family Ties," when Elyse gave birth the end of one
season and the beginning of the next, the kid was 5 years old. A 5 year
old was just easier to write for than an infant, so they just expected
the audience to realize it was just a TV show, used for purposes of
entertainment only, and not some sort of historical fact.
Jen
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Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 12:13:59 EST
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In a message dated 11/20/99 3:23:41 AM Pacific Standard Time,
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<<
Jen, I can relate. I don't blame Geiger raising Alicia in the Jewish Faith,
(if that is his intention)! I remember going >>
Ah.. hello... is anybody home ?? Its a TV show.. you know, not real.
KJ : )
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Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 11:48:16 -0800
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>In a message dated 11/19/1999 9:33:48 PM Pacific Standard Time,
>[email protected] writes:
>
><< Uh-oh, what about adopting a child of a different race or having a
> child with parents from different races. Or a child of a different
> sex. It can get really complicated...Carol >>
SDSUTheatreGal:
>..... About
>having parents of different races, the child is always what the mother is.
>It's the unspoken rule.
So my white niece, pregnant by a black man, is having a Caucasian
child? Maybe you should slip a genetics class in with the theatre.
Sorry, guess because that rule was unspoken, I never heard it....Carol
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Racking my brains from my good Catholic education I'm 99.9% sure you have to
be a Christian at least to be a God parent. I wouldn't be surprised at all
if you had to be a Catholic we're quite anal about these things. Oh well
better hunt out those old R.E. books.
t.
>>> 11/19/99 02:59PM >>>
>When a child is adopted,
Ah! Good point! If Geiger is no longer her godparent but her daddy...but I
wonder what the Catholic/Episcopalian/Whatever take is on that?
>then a mikva (a religious bath that must be performed) must be followed
according to Jewish law.
Statutory scrub? ;)
DR
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>About having parents of different races, the child is always what the
>mother is. It's the unspoken rule.
If we're talking religion here it's a case of either parent a Catholic baby
a Catholic so the rule book goes. I think the guilt is genetic so whether
Alicia gets it will depend on her real parents and goodness knows what they
were. They certainly weren't behaving like good Catholics were they. I was
appalled. ;-)
Over here in the UK they won't let people adopt kids of different
races / religions. There's always some story in the press about it.
Before you tell me I know it's not real but honestly It's really cold
outside and I don't want to go out tonight.
Monica
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> So my white niece, pregnant by a black man, is having a Caucasian
> child? Maybe you should slip a genetics class in with the theatre.
> Sorry, guess because that rule was unspoken, I never heard it....>
>
I had a friend who's skin was very white. His mother was Caucasian but his
father was black. (Actually his father was Geoff Love the band leader,
anyone ever heard of him over there?) He married a white South African who
lived in the UK but they could never go to see her relatives as the South
African government considered him black. Definitely not a rule then.
You'll have to excuse me if I've used any phrase out of turn here. I know
race is a sensitive issue I just never know whether what I write is
considered offensive in the USA.
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what did u mean when u said:
"considering he is jewish"?????
meytal
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><< Whew!
> Happy Mandymas to all!
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> Robin
> >>
>pretty good, considering he's Jewish!! LOL
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Subject: Re: Not Turkey - from Meytal Shpindel
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 12:43:55 PST
hi Ina
well I live in Rehovot
I love your web site on mandy I visit there every day
hope u like Israel!
u r jewish right?
talk to u soon meytal
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>Meytal,
>Thank you so much for the cute Thanksgiving card:) Todah Rabah:)))))
>
>Where do you live in Israel? I visited Israel for the first time last April
>for the 50th anniversary of the state celebration. It was a wonderful trip!
>
>I live near Philadelphia and adore Mandy, like we all. The 1st time I saw
>him, he was in Sunday in the Park With George and he was super!
>
>Your Mandyfriend,
>
>Ina
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Who's unspoken rule is that? My niece is
Carol Matre wrote:
> >In a message dated 11/19/1999 9:33:48 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> >[email protected] writes:
> >
> ><< Uh-oh, what about adopting a child of a different race or having a
> > child with parents from different races. Or a child of a different
> > sex. It can get really complicated...Carol >>
>
> SDSUTheatreGal:
>
> >..... About
> >having parents of different races, the child is always what the mother is.
> >It's the unspoken rule.
>
> So my white niece, pregnant by a black man, is having a Caucasian
> child? Maybe you should slip a genetics class in with the theatre.
> Sorry, guess because that rule was unspoken, I never heard it....Carol
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What unspoken rule is that? My neice has a black father and is very darked
skinned, how on earth would we ever consider her white? That is just absurd.
Carol Matre wrote:
> >In a message dated 11/19/1999 9:33:48 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> >[email protected] writes:
> >
> ><< Uh-oh, what about adopting a child of a different race or having a
> > child with parents from different races. Or a child of a different
> > sex. It can get really complicated...Carol >>
>
> SDSUTheatreGal:
>
> >..... About
> >having parents of different races, the child is always what the mother is.
> >It's the unspoken rule.
>
> So my white niece, pregnant by a black man, is having a Caucasian
> child? Maybe you should slip a genetics class in with the theatre.
> Sorry, guess because that rule was unspoken, I never heard it....Carol
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One has to be Catholic. My children have the same three godparents. One is
Catholic, one is Jewish and the other is Epicopalian.
Monica Coyne wrote:
> Racking my brains from my good Catholic education I'm 99.9% sure you have to
> be a Christian at least to be a God parent. I wouldn't be surprised at all
> if you had to be a Catholic we're quite anal about these things. Oh well
> better hunt out those old R.E. books.
> t.
>
> >>> 11/19/99 02:59PM >>>
>
> >When a child is adopted,
>
> Ah! Good point! If Geiger is no longer her godparent but her daddy...but I
> wonder what the Catholic/Episcopalian/Whatever take is on that?
>
> >then a mikva (a religious bath that must be performed) must be followed
> according to Jewish law.
>
> Statutory scrub? ;)
>
> DR
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Comments: Originally To: , [email protected]
At 02:10 AM 11/20/99 EST, [email protected] wrote:
>In a message dated 11/20/1999 12:25:31 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>[email protected] writes:
>
><< so they just expected
> the audience to realize it was just a TV show, used for purposes of
> entertainment only, and not some sort of historical fact. >>
>It is so true. We all need to lighten up, here......
No, THE WRITERS need to TIGHTEN UP. There's no excuse for stupid
inaccuracies like this. It's not like for purposes of one of the new plots
the baboon heart or the Morfan Syndrome eps HAD to be a certain amount of
time ago...like if the rejection rate for baboon hearts is exactly five
years and that patient is back, or something. It would have been just as
easy, and more respectful to the people who actually keep track of this
show, for the writers to plug in the correct numbers. The same with Alicia.
For purposes of casting, we can maybe go along with the fact that she's shot
up amazingly, but to have Geiger auditioning for her kindergarten in one ep,
then have her say she's seven a month later, is ridiculous.
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Monica:
As someone who has many friends who unfortunately were unable to have their
own biological children, unfortunately many adoptable babies placed for
adoption are those with either a handicap or biracial. There are so many
children of all ages who need homes and in reality do not care about
religion, etc., they simply want a home and to be loved. The church or
synagogue in America does not rule therefore the adoptive family has the last
say regarding religion.
UNLESS ..........
IF a child is placed through a Christian adoptive agency they may seek ONLY
Christian parents. The same abides for Jewish children or open adoption
wherein the birth-mother chooses the adoptive parent or parents of HER choice.
Laura K.
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><< so they just expected
> the audience to realize it was just a TV show, used for purposes of
> entertainment only, and not some sort of historical fact. >>
>It is so true. We all need to lighten up, here......
I don't know if I can be that mature... :)
I think there is a little bit of a difference, though. It's fine if the
timeline isn't quite realistic, a la Family Ties. It's quite another to be
riddled with inconsistencies. That's just sloppy. I was willing to buy
that it had been seven years since Geiger left. I'm just not prepared to
overlook the fact that the writers clearly aren't talking to each other or
even watching/reading the stuff that came before.
Laura
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In a message dated 11/20/1999 11:53:23 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< So my white niece, pregnant by a black man, is having a Caucasian
child? Maybe you should slip a genetics class in with the theatre.
Sorry, guess because that rule was unspoken, I never heard it. >>
We were talking about religion. The child would be whatever religion the
mother is. However, I said I have nothing against being raised both.
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In a message dated 11/20/99 9:17:23 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< Ah.. hello... is anybody home ?? Its a TV show.. you know, not real.
KJ : )
>>
OMG!!!!!!! It is???????????????????????
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In a message dated 11/20/99 1:21:58 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< Morfan Syndrome >>
God. I hate, just HATE, to correct you, but in Kendal's stead.....it is
MARFAN's............:-)
You Rarely make a mistake....so this was quite unique!! LOL!!!!
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On "Full House" they were using young babies and it worked well, very well. =20
They became older and they still could act. The show creators never seemed=20
to have problems with this. If a show productor or writer or whoever really=20
want young kids in a show, there's always a way to work it out.But if they=20
don't care about the audience who's watching and about their own plot, if=20
they don't believe in their thing, then they throw an older child in the=20
show and the problem is solved. This solution is for the lazy people, who=20
don't want to make efforts by writing a story in continuity with the rest of=20
the show. That's what is happening in CH. They don't believe in the show=20
anymore, they know that's it's dying, and they writing episodes not for fun=20
of doing it, but because these episodes were requested by CBs, and this is=20
their job, they don't have faith in what they're writing, they write because=20
of the pay checks. Mandy asked them to make his character more happy,=20
softer, and they said "ok, this is our job, we'll write what you ask." They=20
don't have imagination, they watch old episodes and they copy, just like =on=20
a computer-copy and paste-it's easy that way. They do their job, they do=20
what is asked of them, write, not think.
Poutchy=AD=AD(who is angry against the lack of continuity, but still love=
s the show, and never will stop loving it)
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>Alisha was going into Kinder. NOW she's 7 yrs old? Was she a late
>bloomer, or what?
This reminds me of "Family Ties," when Elyse gave birth the end of one
season and the beginning of the next, the kid was 5 years old. A 5 year
old was just easier to write for than an infant, so they just expected
the audience to realize it was just a TV show, used for purposes of
entertainment only, and not some sort of historical fact.
Jen
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In a message dated 11/20/99 5:18:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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> Date: 11/20/99 5:18:57 PM Eastern Standard Time
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>
> In a message dated 11/20/99 9:17:23 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> [email protected] writes:
>
> << Ah.. hello... is anybody home ?? Its a TV show.. you know, not real.
> KJ : )
> >>
> OMG!!!!!!! It is???????????????????????
>
Now you tell me........
Michelle
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Ah.. hello... is anybody home ?? Its a TV show.. you know, not real.
KJ : )
KJ, Alot of TV, is take from real life, surely, you can relate? Where do you
think they get their plots. Have you ever talked to someone who's life reads
like a soap opera?
Patty
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Nanci wrote:
"Aside for all these other continuity problems, I'd like to know why
Jeffrey is still wearing a wedding ring? I'm sure this has been brought
up before, and I figure it might have something to do with the fact that
*Mandy* doesn't want to take off his wedding ring, but I'm wondering
what is *Jeffrey's* reason?"
You really shouldn't get me started on this -- it drives me crazy! But with
all the other inconsistencies on the show this year, this one actually
doesn't bother me as much as it used to.
If you want my opinion, "Mandy" doesn't want to take off his wedding ring.
Why, I don't know, since he took it off for Elmo's movie. What is
"Jeffrey's" reason? He doesn't have one (since he didn't start wearing it
until season 2). The only reason IMO that Jeffrey is wearing it is because
he is being played by Mandy. Who apparently doesn't worry all that much
about plot consistency either. At least where this is concerned.
As far as all the rest of this, I couldn't believe the priest would let
Jeffrey be a godparent way back in season two when the baptism took place.
But Camille was Catholic and some people have said that only one godparent
has to be Catholic. Being a Catholic godparent myself, I didn't know that,
but okay, at least that explains that.
As far as Brenda's possible explanation of why Jeffrey went into the whole
Bat Mitzvah analogy with the woman last night, I can only say that this is
why I liked her book. She has far more imagination than any of the writers
on this show and she is giving them way too much credit. Perhaps we should
contact David Kelley and offer Brenda's services to write the rest of the
season. Er, um, Brenda, would that be okay with you? You're not busy or
anything right now are you? What's a little book editing when you can save
Geiger and this sinking ship that Mandy's trying to jump off of?
:-) Joanne
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At 7:35 PM -0800 11/20/99, Joanne Cochran wrote:
>If you want my opinion, "Mandy" doesn't want to take off his wedding ring.
>Why, I don't know, since he took it off for Elmo's movie. What is
>"Jeffrey's" reason? He doesn't have one (since he didn't start wearing it
>until season 2). The only reason IMO that Jeffrey is wearing it is because
>he is being played by Mandy. Who apparently doesn't worry all that much
>about plot consistency either. At least where this is concerned.
This is rather surprising, however, as Mandy has a reputation for being
meticulous when it comes to detail. When I visited the CH set, he had to
get the mooshoo chinese food he was eating folded exactly right for every
take. Thomas Gibson was so exasperated with it, that he would roll his
eyes.
I guess when it comes to his wedding ring, Mandy has made a concscious
decision not to pay attention to detail... But it is not just the wedding
ring, as he once wore a friendship bracelet onscreen (which I've theorized
may have come from Gideon or some other child close to Mandy).
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> Perhaps we should
> contact David Kelley and offer Brenda's services to write the rest of the
> season. Er, um, Brenda, would that be okay with you? You're not busy or
> anything right now are you? What's a little book editing when you can save
> Geiger and this sinking ship that Mandy's trying to jump off of?
>
> :-) Joanne
Unfortunately, there is no way to save Chicago Hope at this time. CBS is doing
to CH what it did to Murder, She Wrote its last season. Putting it up against
competition it know that CH has no chance of beating. In its last season, CBS
moved Murder, She Wrote from its traditional Sunday night spot, after 60 Minutes
to Thursdays opposite Friends. Angela Lansbury was quite outspoken on the
subject and the last few eps, CBS moved the show back to its Sunday night spot.
Maybe, they'll do the same with the last few eps of Hope. IMHO I don't see Hope
coming back next season. Most of the actors only signed a 6 year contract
(Hector & Adam). I'm not sure what the others have signed, but I wouldn't be
surprised if last year wasn't the end of their contract and they've only signed
a 1 yr extension.
Also, has there been any word that CH has been picked up for the rest of the
season? As far as I know they've only gotten a 1/2 season commitment. Although
reading phantm's post about MP's appearances it seems that if he's scheduled to
be in ep #15 then maybe CBS has given the green light for the rest of the
season.
And frankly unless DEK comes back full time to writing CH, I don't see much hope
for next season.
My .02, for what it's worth,
Tara
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Just a quick thought...maybe the reason that Shutt
said the baboon heart was five years ago was that DK
rewrote some of the episode. He wrote the first season
so he knew it was 5 years ago...so much for his input
into the other episodes...I doubt if he even watches
it to see if it's any good.
Renee
--- Tara Patterson wrote:
> > Perhaps we should
> > contact David Kelley and offer Brenda's services
> to write the rest of the
> > season. Er, um, Brenda, would that be okay with
> you? You're not busy or
> > anything right now are you? What's a little book
> editing when you can save
> > Geiger and this sinking ship that Mandy's trying
> to jump off of?
> >
> > :-) Joanne
>
> Unfortunately, there is no way to save Chicago Hope
> at this time. CBS is doing
> to CH what it did to Murder, She Wrote its last
> season. Putting it up against
> competition it know that CH has no chance of
> beating. In its last season, CBS
> moved Murder, She Wrote from its traditional Sunday
> night spot, after 60 Minutes
> to Thursdays opposite Friends. Angela Lansbury was
> quite outspoken on the
> subject and the last few eps, CBS moved the show
> back to its Sunday night spot.
> Maybe, they'll do the same with the last few eps of
> Hope. IMHO I don't see Hope
> coming back next season. Most of the actors only
> signed a 6 year contract
> (Hector & Adam). I'm not sure what the others have
> signed, but I wouldn't be
> surprised if last year wasn't the end of their
> contract and they've only signed
> a 1 yr extension.
>
> Also, has there been any word that CH has been
> picked up for the rest of the
> season? As far as I know they've only gotten a 1/2
> season commitment. Although
> reading phantm's post about MP's appearances it
> seems that if he's scheduled to
> be in ep #15 then maybe CBS has given the green
> light for the rest of the
> season.
>
> And frankly unless DEK comes back full time to
> writing CH, I don't see much hope
> for next season.
>
> My .02, for what it's worth,
> Tara
>
>
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