From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Mail digest
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 6:39:33 +0200 (METDST)

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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Fw: FW: You may want to share this information
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 23:59:36 EST

let's not get into a war. please let's drop the subject

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Subject: Re: tonites show
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 00:38:30 EST
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In a message dated 11/21/1999 8:27:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[email protected] writes:

<< We" need to stop telling others to lighten up and/or keep
 our sense of humor. "We" know it's just a show. But when the important facts
 of characters' lives (like date of birth, marital status, number of bullets
 that killed them) are juggled around with no good purpose, I *do* feel
 disrespected, and I think probably most thinking viewers do also.
  >>
I feel sorry that this makes you feel disrespected. Most viewers do not share 
your feeling.

I feel, and have always felt, that we have a right to speak our mind on this 
list. Therefore, why say We" need to stop telling others to lighten up and/or 
keep our sense of humor. "

 I don't appreciate you telling me what I should and should not say!!!!!

Is it your purpose to keep insulting the members of this list? I hope not.


Have a wonderful day.
         Barbara

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In a message dated 11/21/1999 8:29:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[email protected] writes:

<< DR <-- rolling eyes >>
Didn't they tell you, that if you roll your eyes, they will stay that way?? 
LOL

Have a wonderful day.
         Barbara

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Subject: Re: Message Not Delivered
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Every single time I send a message to the List, I get this reply:


>The message you sent could not be sent to the following recipient(s):
>  SMTP:[email protected]
>


Does someone know who this person is and why I keep getting this message?
Is anyone else getting this message?

Thanks,
Joanne




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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Get a Grammy for Mandy
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 12:42:15 +0000
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Joanne Cochran wrote: 
>  Would the performers win or would the producer win?

The producer of "Diaries" tells me that he thinks the 
Grammy for this category goes to the performers since 
they're the ones whose names are listed on the ballot.  
So if it won, it would mean a Grammy for Mandy!!!  

-Char
--
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   Mandy Patinkin - High Flying Adored
   http://home.att.net/~mad4mandy
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Yes, I keep getting the same message.  I do not know who this person is.

Regards,
  Helaine

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Every single time I send a message to the List, I get this reply:


>The message you sent could not be sent to the following recipient(s):
>  SMTP:[email protected]
>


Does someone know who this person is and why I keep getting this message?
Is anyone else getting this message?

Thanks,
Joanne




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I really didn't think Diane's was being nasty.  Re-read the text.  She was 
very nice about it.

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Subject: Re: CH Titles
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 09:02:30 EST
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In a message dated 11/21/99 7:29:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] 
writes:

<< This was a GREAT episode!............ When it was on ER!!
 
 jen >>
 Anyone remember when CH had the episode in the video or convenience store 
where Kate and Billy (I think) were held hostage and trying to help a guy who 
got shot?    E.R.  had the very same episode (give or take a few details) 
about 2 weeks later, I believe.   Not only do we seem to have writers who are 
challenged when it comes to consistency, but obviously they aren't very 
creative either.  

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As for the wedding ring thing, anyone who would damage their own back wearing 
a harness to get a part just right, or study painting and drawing in order to 
be convincing onstage, would not be prone to forgetting or just deciding to 
ignore the detail of the ring.  I think that perhaps this is a continuation 
of his still loving the wife even though she's in the institution and married 
to someone else.  And, he broke up with Geri because he just wasn't ready for 
a serious relationship.  So, maybe it's a little bit of both (wants people to 
think he's married and STILL loves the ex-wife).    Just my opinion.  
Although it certainly is ONLY a TV show, to an actor like MP it is likely to 
be fraught with details like this and, having seen him work in other things, 
I think he is very attentive to these things.  

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Subject: Re: Further thoughts about Alicia
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 09:06:21 EST
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In a message dated 11/21/99 8:18:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] 
writes:

<< Oh yeah, the hat pin was kept up the nun's sleeve!  Today, she would 
 >be arrested! >>


Hat pins AND the spiral binder back of the grade book.  I can remember 
getting hit across the back of the skull with one of those.  Today, our 
parents would file charges.

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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Fw: FW: You may want to share this information
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 09:09:47 EST
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Helaine, I believe you forwarded this with best intentions.  I work in the 
computer industry, and many people forward virus alerts without knowing 
whether they are hoaxs (they are concerned about their fellow computer 
users).    I usually check them out (if I don't already know about them) and 
then alert the person who told me, so that they will know not to forward the 
hoax to someone else.  I think that's what everyone here was doing -- some 
were just nicer than others.  But, we've all gotten our noses bitten off from 
time to time in newsgroups and on mailing lists, and the good news is that we 
live to tell the tale.

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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Meytal .... Forgot one Thing... 
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 11:19:54 EST
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Hi to u all

>I think that's it!
>But not when she having bat-mizva 100%
>so u dont think that she is very young for all this mikva thing???
>
>meytal
>
>Tut, Tut ...

No Meytal ......... you did forget one.  

When a baby is born to a woman who is not of the Jewish faith, a baby is 
placed in a Mikva ........... You men, what do you know anyway!!! 

Laura K.

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Subject: Meytal ....... forgot one!!!
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No Meytal ......... you did forget one.  

When a baby is born to a woman who is not of the Jewish faith, a baby is 
placed in a Mikva ........... You men, what do you know anyway!!! 

Laura K.

PS.  This is to convert the baby from whatever religion his/her mother was to 
Judiasm.

Laura K.

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>>> "[email protected]"  11/21/99 09:31PM >>>

>What we don't know, is that Jeffrey married Geri Infante >while he was =
away from Chicago Hope.  We just haven't >discovered this yet.  ;)

HROFL! Nice try, TT!

DR


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On Mon, 22 Nov 1999 09:02:30 EST  writes:
> Anyone remember when CH had the episode in the video or convenience 
>store where Kate and Billy (I think) were held hostage and trying to
help a 
>guy who got shot?    E.R.  had the very same episode (give or take a few

>details) about 2 weeks later, I believe.   

That's right! I do remember that now! ER's was still better!  :)

Jen

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hi
yes I get it too and I dont know what to do so I send it 2 times
meytal


>From: "Joanne Cochran" 
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: Message Not Delivered
>Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 23:05:07 -0800
>
>Every single time I send a message to the List, I get this reply:
>
>
> >The message you sent could not be sent to the following recipient(s):
> >  SMTP:[email protected]
> >
>
>
>Does someone know who this person is and why I keep getting this message?
>Is anyone else getting this message?
>
>Thanks,
>Joanne
>
>
>

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Subject: Re: Further Thoughts About Alicia! (Off, Kind of?)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 15:40:44 -0500
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On Mon, 22 Nov 1999 06:34:28 EST [email protected] writes:
>On Sat, 20 Nov 1999 06:21:05 EST  writes:
>>
>>Oh yeah, the hat pin was kept up the nun's sleeve!  Today, she would 
>
>>be arrested!
>
>I spent 8 years in catholic school and never once had a nun teacher 
>like this! I feel so left out! And both my parents were 12 years in 
>Catholic school, and neither of them had one either. What the hell is
wrong 
>with the world outside of my hometown???
>
>Jen, perhaps you don't believe this, ( You are entitled).  But why 
>would I 
>lie? 

Why would you ask me this?? Is it just me, or are you sounding a little
bit defensive?

>Do you read the papers? 

No, I'm illiterate. LOL. Yes. I read the papers. Thanks for asking.

>You must live in utopia! 

No, just Ft. Wayne, Indiana.

> My husband went to Catholic School in Ohio, and hated it!  He felt 
>the curriculum be sub standard.

Not here. I've also taught at the school I attended, and not only do the
kids get a better education there than they do at the public schools, the
kids are a million times more disciplined and better behaved. Sure, there
are a few kids on Ritalin there, or whatever, but it's maybe one or two
per grade, instead of 6 or 7 per class.

>I am sorry that you fell "so left out," 

Do we NEED to be this sarcastic today? If so, have at it, and I hope it
helps you sleep better.

Jen <---politely removing you from the "cc" list, so you only get one
copy of this instead of 2

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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Warlow in "Secret Garden"
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 14:59:06 -0600
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>>> Carol Matre  11/21/99 10:23PM=20
>But, and I think someone else pointed  this out, Warlow >and Quast don't =
have enough contrast in their voices=20
>in "Lily's Eyes."

That would be me. ;)  Glad to get some validation, if only to show that I =
don't *always* talk out of my hat.

>Warlow has a better voice technically than Mandy, I >suppose, but there's =
something about Mandy's not >being as polished or the way it sounds like =
it's the first >time he's sung a song....

Well, we know if he were *really* singing a song for the first time, he'd =
start over about 14 times....  I think what sets Mandy apart from Warlow =
in this respect is that his voice is *unique*. Warlow's voice can only be =
described as "magnificent", and he's wonderful at mimicry and "big" =
effects (like that held note in "This Is the Moment" that makes you fear =
for the oxygen supply to his brain). And, as a fan, I am attuned to his =
voice and could pick it out from among others. But when he's "just" =
singing something straightforward, his voice isn't as distinctive as =
Mandy's. In fact, I was thinking Richard Muenz comes close to Warlow on =
"Bernstein's New York", though I know Muenz has a much "lesser" voice. =
Warlow is pretty much a "traditional" "Baritone with a bright top" (his =
words). Whereas Mandy's voice has so many facets - the ethereal top, the =
powerful midrange, and oh those low throbbies.

>And I so love Mandy's version of "How Could I Ever >Know" that I couldn't =
be objective.

True, and Warlow does a terrific job. But I feel that Marina Prior isn't =
as good as Rebecca Luker, and that Mandy and Rebecca are sublime together, =
so they get the prize on this one.  (Similarly, I much prefer the Dickon =
and Martha on the Broadway album to the Aus one. I love Quast's voice so =
it's hard to choose between him and Westenberg for Neville, but as =
previously mentioned, Westenberg sounds better with Mandy than Quast does =
with Warlow, so he gets my preference.)

DR


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To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Message Not Delivered me too
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 15:01:50 -0600
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>>> "meytal & ido shpindel"  11/22/99 02:41PM >>>

>yes I get it too and I dont know what to do so I send it 2 >times

You don't have to do this, Meytal. All the message means is that the email =
address for this Eileen who must be on the list is no longer valid, and =
*she* did not receive the message.  The rest of us still get all the mail.

DR


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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: tonites show
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 15:17:57 -0600
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>>>  11/21/99 11:38PM >>>

(quoting me)
>I think probably most thinking viewers do also.
  >>

>I feel sorry that this makes you feel disrespected. Most >viewers do not =
share your feeling.

Oh, have you asked them all? Please note that I said "I think" "most" =
viewers "probably" feel this way. I base this opinion on the fact of so =
many list members, and non-list members of my acquaintance, commenting on =
and objecting to the way in which the "facts" in CH have been juggled =
around - once again, for no real purpose.  On what do you base your =
assertion that "most viewers do not share" my feelings?

>I feel, and have always felt, that we have a right to speak >our mind on =
this list. Therefore, why say We" need to >stop telling others to lighten =
up and/or keep our sense >of humor. "

I was, of course, quoting you. The "we" is in quotes because you obviously =
were not including yourself in the "we". In the context in which you used =
it, "we" very clearly meant "you" (i.e. me and anyone else who feels =
insulted by the writers' lack of consistency). So for you to be using "we" =
struck me as pretty condescending.

> I don't appreciate you telling me what I should and >should not say!!!!!

And YOU weren't telling ME (and the abovementioned whiners about consistenc=
y) what to do with your "lighten up/keep a sense of humor" advice? You =
WEREN'T telling us to stop complaining and expressing OUR feelings about =
this? You do have a perfect right to say whatever you want about the show, =
but so do we. You have every right to say it's only a show, and that =
you've kept a sense of humor about it. But you don't have the right to =
tell US to lighten up and to keep a sense of humor! Can you possibly grasp =
the differences here?

>Is it your purpose to keep insulting the members of this >list? I hope =
not.

Who's insulting who? Who's the one who implied that there's something =
wrong with having strong feelings about a show (or a character)? Who =
implied that we take it as a *personal* affront - as if the writers sat =
down every week and say, "Okay, how can we annoy (insert list member name) =
this week?"

>Have a wonderful day.

You have one too.....ma'am.

DR


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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Hey, guys...we've got competition
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 16:14:45 EST
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Subject: New Mandy List
From: [email protected]
Date: Mon, 22 November 1999 02:08 PM EST
Message-id: <[email protected]>

New online discussion/mailing list for Mandy Patinkin fans:


http://www.onelist.com/community/Mandy_FANtinkins

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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Further thoughts about Alicia
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 21:25:58 -0000
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I saw a nun pour a bowl of hot custard over someone's head not to mention
the numerous times they beat hell out of people just because they could.
Apparently they don't take a vow of non-violence.  Funny though they always
had a knack of knowing which kids they could pick on.  Those whose parents
wouldn't kick up a fuss.


----- Original Message -----
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Sent: 22 November 1999 14:06
Subject: Re: Further thoughts about Alicia


> In a message dated 11/21/99 8:18:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[email protected]
> writes:
>
> << Oh yeah, the hat pin was kept up the nun's sleeve!  Today, she would
>  >be arrested! >>
>
>
> Hat pins AND the spiral binder back of the grade book.  I can remember
> getting hit across the back of the skull with one of those.  Today, our
> parents would file charges.
>


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Subject: Re: tonites show
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So, if anyone needs a vote of confidence regarding the opinion of the other 
CH fans...all you have to do is read the CH NG and this mailing list to see 
that the majority of people do not like the inconsistency and the poor 
writing.  True, it is only our opinion, but there are many people who feel 
that way.  

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Ok...if you all are going to have a flame war over who can say what,
let's get the ground rules straight. ;-)

http://www.alsirat.com/flame.html
--
Dianne Smith
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Subject: Re: Hey, guys...we've got competition
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 17:16:54 EST

In a message dated 11/22/99 1:16:30 PM, [email protected] writes:

>>Subject: New Mandy List
From: [email protected]
Date: Mon, 22 November 1999 02:08 PM EST
Message-id: <[email protected]>

New online discussion/mailing list for Mandy Patinkin fans:


http://www.onelist.com/community/Mandy_FANtinkins



yes, this was the one advertised on this list over the weekend by a member of 
this list.....

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Subject: Re: Further Thoughts about Alicia!
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In a message dated 11/20/99 3:48:59 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[email protected] writes:

<< Ah.. hello... is anybody home ?? Its a TV show.. you know, not real. KJ : 
) 
KJ, Alot of TV, is take from real life, surely, you can relate?  Where do you 
think they get their plots. Have you ever talked to someone who's life reads 
like a soap opera? >>

I love it when someone who can't spell or use proper grammar/punction is so 
condescending ;-P

Bev
FEB; XFW#2001; SAA; NRMTPB; ARIAA; SAMC(TINC)
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In a message dated 11/22/1999 1:54:26 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[email protected] writes:

<< Ok...if you all are going to have a flame war over who can say what,
 let's get the ground rules straight. ;-) >>
Please let's not. Let's just switch topics. Let it drop pleaseeeeeeee!!!

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In a message dated 11/22/1999 2:25:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[email protected] writes:

<< I love it when someone who can't spell or use proper grammar/punction is 
so  condescending ;-P >>
No one should be condescending, but it's not fair to tell someone not to do 
something simply because they made a grammatical error.  If you take pride in 
your grammar, that's fine.  Just don't criticize others. JMHO

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Hello everyone. I apologize if you recieve this message in MIME format. =
I have been trying for weeks to restore it to the original format, but no luck.
I don't usually post to this list, mainly because I enjoy reading =
everyone's thoughts, but for some strange reason I felt compelled to =
share this with all of you.
Although I am truly a MP fan...I am also a HUGE Chicago Hope fan. I have =
also followed the show from the beginning, and have acquired almost =
every episode from day one til season 5...thanks to the handy VCR.=20
Each and every weekend I find that the usual tv programming =
"stinks"...so I pop in an old CH tape and go about my normal routine, =
(so long as I can HEAR the show while I'm cooking, housecleaning..etc.,, =
I am functional). This has been going on for quite a few years now, and =
not only do I remember almost every line...so do my hubby & kids, LOL. =
It's kinda like Geiger and his pants....I concentrate & function better =
with my CH tapes ON!=20
My family jokes that I have OCD when it comes to my tapes....and that as =
long as they bury them with me, I can be happy throughout eternity! LOL =
... I suppose my passion for the show is now showing, so I will say =
this: I take in every line and plot like "gospel", so I do notice each & =
every discrepency (sp) that the writers make.
I also get caught up in this show as if it were my own family....OK, =
maybe you are all thinking I'm a bit cukoo, (maybe I am...but I =
sincerely love the show).
I really hate it when they bring back past characters and try to pull =
them off as new characters...but that's another story!
Anyway...I just thought I'd add my 2 cents. I apologize to those of you =
that don't want to discuss CH on this list. I welcome any private emails =
about the above.
Have a good day
Gina Moore



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Dear All,
Could we not have a flame war. I am sure most of us have better things to do. 
 New topic: Did anyone notice that Alicia wore a medic alert bracelet.
Rochelle

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I haven't received the message myself but I have received notices to others
on the list that messages have not been delivered to that person. I thought
that in itself was strange!

Liz



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Or maybe he married someone else. Like aa lady, named Kathryn, who has two teenage
sons! Happy Thanksgiving. Nan

[email protected] wrote:

> At 10:22 PM -0500 11/21/99,  wrote:
> >Well, I can see why Jeffrey would still wear his wedding ring. He is still in
> >love with his wife. Jeffrey never wanted the divorce. It isnt that unusual to
> >wear the ring after the divorce----even after the ex-spouse remarries.
>
> What we don't know, is that Jeffrey married Geri Infante while he was away
> from Chicago Hope.  We just haven't discovered this yet.  ;)
>
> phantm
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AT LAST! Nan

[email protected] wrote:

> Joanne Cochran wrote:
> >  Would the performers win or would the producer win?
>
> The producer of "Diaries" tells me that he thinks the
> Grammy for this category goes to the performers since
> they're the ones whose names are listed on the ballot.
> So if it won, it would mean a Grammy for Mandy!!!
>
> -Char
> --
> ****************************************************
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Subject: OFF:  Cute Jewish Joke ....JUST LAUGH, DON'T FLAME...PLEASE!
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A Jewish father, Moishe, was told by his eldest son, Yitzhak...
"Father, I am going to marry!"

His father begins to dance and sing with joy.
"Tell me, is she a good Jewish girl?" says the father. "What is her
name?"

"O'Brien" replies the son... "She's Catholic..."

"Oy!" says the father.... "But are you happy?"

 "I'm happy," says the son.

"Ok...as long as you're happy.... my blessings to you both," replies
Moishe.

The father is counting on his remaining sons, Schlemiel and Chutzpah...

Schlemiel calls on his father the next evening, "Father... I too will be
married soon!"

Again, Moishe breaks out in a dance and sings God's praises...
"What is her name," implores the father?"

"Kazalopodopolous," says the son.  "She's Greek Orthodox..."

"Oy," says Moishe... "But are you happy?"

"I'm happy, father..."

"Ok... then you, too, have my blessing," intones Moishe...

Dejected, Moishe goes to the Temple to pray.."Please God... let my
remaining
son Chutzpah marry a nice Jewish girl... to raise nice Jewish children
in your eyes ... PLEASE!"

Chutzpah comes to his father excitedly and exclaims, "Father! I too, am
to wed in the spring!"

"Her NAME? WHAT IS HER NAME" his father immediately demands.

"Goldberg!" says Chutzpah"

Moishe is beside himself with joy! "Praise God! Praise the Prophets!"
Turning to Chutzpah, he asks, "Is she Doctor Goldberg's daughter,
Shelley, from Los Angeles?"

"No..." says Chutzpah.

"Hmmm," says Moishe, "Must be Attorney Goldberg's daughter Rachel from
Connecticut?"

"Ah...no, father" says Chutzpah...

"Well, then, what is her first name, my youngest, truest, most beautiful
son?"

"Whoopi." says Chutzpah.


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Monica, I appreciate your comment.  Apparently, I was not the only child in 
the world, who witnessed NUN Violence!  However, a member did make me feel 
this way!  I was not trying to be sarcastic, just factual.

Patty

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could it not be that someone has signed up to the list and they typed in
the wrong email? try unsubbing the name from the list

Joanne Cochran wrote:
> 
> Every single time I send a message to the List, I get this reply:
> 
> >The message you sent could not be sent to the following recipient(s):
> >  SMTP:[email protected]
> >
> 
> Does someone know who this person is and why I keep getting this message?
> Is anyone else getting this message?
> 
> Thanks,
> Joanne

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Subject: Further Thoughts About Alicia!
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In a message dated 11/22/1999 2:25:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[email protected] writes:

<< I love it when someone who can't spell or use proper grammar/punction is 
so 
 condescending ;-P >>
No one should be condescending, but it's not fair to tell someone not to do 
something simply because they made a grammatical error.  If you take pride in 
your grammar, that's fine.  Just don't criticize others. JMHO

Thanks JMHO ;-)

As for P, I wonder if the thought ever entered her mind that some people on 
the "list" may have a physical handicap, and their typing may not be up to 
standard? But they do try their best. 

I thought this was a safe haven, where all could express themselves openly 
and honestly, not a spelling/grammar contest!  I find it really sad when 
someone is consumed with grammar and spelling. Whatever happened to context?

Stiff and fat fingers Patty ;-)

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Subject: Re: Warlow in "Secret Garden"
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 19:19:54 -0800
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> >>> Carol Matre  11/21/99 10:23PM
> >But, and I think someone else pointed  this out, Warlow and Quast 
>don't have enough contrast in their voices in "Lily's Eyes."

DR wrote:
>That would be me.

Thought so.

I think what sets Mandy apart from Warlow in this respect is that his 
voice is *unique*......

> Whereas Mandy's voice has so many facets - the ethereal top, the 
>powerful midrange, and oh those low throbbies.

I think you put that very well. It's like the difference between a 
classic, good-looking man and one that has charisma without the 
classic looks. *Unique* can be more attractive.

> > Mandy and Rebecca are sublime together, so they get the prize on this one.

so true.....

But I'm happy to have a copy of the Australian version too....Carol


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On Mon, 22 Nov 1999 22:05:03 EST  writes:

>As for P, I wonder if the thought ever entered her mind that some 
>people on the "list" may have a physical handicap, and their typing may
not be 
>up to standard? But they do try their best. 

I'm so lost..... who is "P"?

>I thought this was a safe haven, where all could express themselves 
>openly and honestly, not a spelling/grammar contest!  

Boy, were YOU sadly mistaken! ROFL!!!!  ;-)

>I find it really sad 
>when someone is consumed with grammar and spelling. Whatever happened to

>context?

Flies out the window with crappy grammar and spelling. 

Jen <---JMHO


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On Mon, 22 Nov 1999 21:26:58 EST  writes:
>
>Monica, I appreciate your comment.  Apparently, I was not the only 
>child in 
>the world, who witnessed NUN Violence!  However, a member did make me 
>feel 
>this way!  I was not trying to be sarcastic, just factual.

Because I don't want to just "assume" anything here, are you saying that
I made you feel like you were the only person in the world who witnessed
"NUN Violence!"? Because why on earth would ONE member of an email list
ever in a million years make you feel this way? Just because ONE member
of an email list (and both her parents) happen to have never witnessed
"NUN Violence!"? Why are you so quick to assure everyone here that "NUN
Violence!" actually does or did happen in this country? Why can't it
simply be accepted (as just factual) that there can exist in this country
a community in which "NUN Violence!" does NOT occur, and it not be
considered "utopia"? How is calling such a community a "utopia"
considered "factual," and not "sarcastic"?

"Jen"


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On Mon, 22 Nov 1999 15:49:01 -0600 Dianne Smith 
writes:
>Ok...if you all are going to have a flame war over who can say what,
>let's get the ground rules straight. ;-)
>
>http://www.alsirat.com/flame.html

ROFL!!!  

Jen <----doesn't always have to have the last word....  ;-)

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On Mon, 22 Nov 1999 21:25:58 -0000 "Monica Coyne"
 writes:
>I saw a nun pour a bowl of hot custard over someone's head not to 
>mention
>the numerous times they beat hell out of people just because they 
>could.
>Apparently they don't take a vow of non-violence.  Funny though they 
>always
>had a knack of knowing which kids they could pick on.  Those whose 
>parents
>wouldn't kick up a fuss.

How many nuns have you witnessed in your entire life? How many of those
nuns have performed a violent act against a child?

Jen <---just askin'!
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On Mon, 22 Nov 1999 15:17:57 -0600 "DIANE ROSENFELDT"  
>>Is it your purpose to keep insulting the members of this >list? I 
>hope not.
>
>Who's insulting who? 

Pssst. Din.  It's "whom."

>Who's the one who implied that there's something 
>wrong with having strong feelings about a show (or a character)? Who 
>implied that we take it as a *personal* affront - 

Who's yer daddy??

Jen <---Hoosier grandmommy
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On Mon, 22 Nov 1999 14:59:06 -0600 "DIANE ROSENFELDT" 
writes:

>That would be me. ;)  Glad to get some validation, if only to show 
>that I don't *always* talk out of my hat.

No, just usually your butt. ;-)

jen
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Subject: Re: Hey, guys...we've got competition
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 23:13:01 -0600 (CST)
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*Not* competition! Just another outlet for our Mandy appreciation!

Nanci

With a handful of keys and a song to sing, now how could you ask for
more? -- Mandy

*Clowns don't belong in a hospital!*
*Neither do children.* -- Dr. Jeffrey Geiger


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