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Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 13:55:10 +0200 (METDST)
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>>Not one misspelled word in your post, as well as not one single thing of
interest. Have you ever been accused of being ridged ? ... maybe YOU could
hang back and just observe for a bit and see how things are run here. ( I
don't really mean that, as it is a very obnoxious statement, not to mention
its insulting condescending nature.
KJ >>
The same can't be said of your post--did you mean "rigid?" (leaving
punctuation aside)
Liz
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>>> 11/23/99 11:28PM >>>
>I'd also like to hear Mandy sing The Impossible Dream.
This *almost* goes without saying. It's one of those songs everybody with =
a Voice should sing.
>I saw James Naughton in a one man concert last year. >He was wonderful. =
He was also wonderful as Billy Flynn >in the broadway show Chicago.
I read the Times review of that concert and it made me want to run and see =
it, but circumstances (like liviing in Wisconsin) didn't permit. A few of =
the people on this list invaded NYC and saw "Chicago", but Naughton was =
off Directing that month. Gregory Jbarra was very good, but we'd have =
loved to see Naughton. Did see him in "City of Angels" though. :)
DR
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LATE SHOW WITH DAVID LETTERMAN, CBS
We 11/24 Julianna Margulies, chef Eric Ripert, Third Eye Blind
Th 11/25 George Carlin, Jewel
Fr 11/26 Billy Baldwin
Mo 11/29 Barbara Walters, sports reporter Dan Patrick, Mary J. Blige
Tu 11/30 Jack Lemmon, Martha Stewart, Foo Fighters
We 12/1 Tim Robbins, Laetitia Casta, B.B. King, Dr. John
THE TONIGHT SHOW WITH JAY LENO, NBC
We 11/24 Cameron Diaz, golfer Sergio Garcia, Enrique Iglesias
Th 11/25 Rodney Dangerfield, young turkey callers
Fr 11/26 Melissa Etheridge, Noah Wyle
Mo 11/29 Kate Winslet, 98 Degrees
Tu 11/30 Sigourney Weaver, young inventors
LATE LATE SHOW WITH CRAIG KILBORN, CBS
We 11/24 Karl Malone, Chris Connelly
Th 11/25 TBA
Fr 11/26 Jeri Ryan
Mo 11/29 Billy Baldwin, Deacon Jones, the Paula Cole Band
Tu 11/30 Brooke Shields
LATE NIGHT WITH CONAN O'BRIEN, NBC
We 11/24 Jay Mohr, S. Epatha Merkerson, comic Janine DiTillio
Th 11/25 Roshumba, Joe Strummer
Fr 11/26 Brian Williams, Heidi Klum, Sting
Mo 11/29 Sam Donaldson, Illeana Douglas, Jimeoin (R 9/9/99)
Tu 11/30 Kevin Pollak, John Lurie & The Lounge Lizards
We 12/1 Dan Cronin
POLITICALLY INCORRECT WITH BILL MAHER, ABC
We 11/24 TBA
Th 11/25 Russell Means, Wes Studi, Irene Bedard, Ken Hamblin
Fr 11/26 Paul Kantner, China Kantner, Gail Zappa, Ahmet Zappa
Mo 11/29 Greg Gumbel, "Big Dawg"
Tu 11/30 Sen. Joseph Lieberman
We 12/1 Barbara Olsen
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Subject: Re: MP: Celebrity Dish
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:00:29 -0600
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>>> 11/24/99 12:26AM >>>
>There is an ad in the new TV Guide for this show and it >does say Mandy =
will be on the premiere show Sunday! :
Kewl!
Too bad Anthony Warlow isn't a celebrity over here. He's done a couple =
cooking segments on an Aus morning-type show. He looks really good with a =
dish towel slung over his shoulder. (No, that's not all he's wearing!)
DR
Nanci
With a handful of keys and a song to sing, now how could you ask for
more? -- Mandy
*Clowns don't belong in a hospital!*
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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:15:10 -0500
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At 2:22 AM 11/24/99, wrote:
>Jen, the best part about e-mail is that you can see who it's from, and delete
>it, without ever having to read it!
>
>Patty
Patty,
Another nice thing about most e-mail, and the senders of it, is that you
can copy and paste and it puts those nice little marks > next to the things
that are copied so that everyone who reads it knows which things you are
saying and which things are being quoted. When you do it backwards or
haphazardly, marking what you say or only marking some of the quoted
remarks, it is confusing as all get out to follow the conversation. Of
course, considering the conversation, a lot of people are probably
following your earlier advice whenever they see certain names or subject
titles in e-mail.
Rene (would have said confusing as h-e double hockey sticks, but didn't
want to offend anyone ;-)
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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:30:31 EST
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No I didn't get a chance to see him in City of Angels. I'm sorry I didn't.
He was on Ally McBeal on Monday night and I missed it. I was hoping someone
on the list would be able to make a copy for me, but no one answered my
message. I believe he sang on the show.
He is a very striking sexy man in person. Has beautiful gray hair. He is
very classy looking.
I once saw a show at Manhattan Theater Club that Nathan Lane was in.
Apparently James Naughton is a friend of his. He was in the audience
(sitting just across from me) with his wife. During intermission, many
people went over to talk with him and he was very gracious.
I hope you get a chance to see him perform in person.
Regards,
Helaine
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Subject: Celebrity Dish
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:39:25 EST
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Can you please let me know what time Celebrity Dish airs this Sunday? I
erased it by mistake.
Thank you.
Regards,
Helaine
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Subject: Happy Thanksgiving
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:43:15 EST
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I just wanted to wish everyone a very HAPPY THANKSGIVING!
Enjoy and have a great day.
Regards,
Helaine
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Subject: Spelling schmelling
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:54:05 -0500
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At 6:03 PM 11/23/99, quoted someone:
>>> I thought this was a safe haven, where all could express themselves openly
>and honestly, not a spelling/grammar contest! I find it really sad when
>someone is consumed with grammar and spelling. Whatever happened to context?
>>>
>
>Safe haven? Here? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
>
>Bev
Not while Bev, Diane, and Kendal are on the list!
Kim says >>>
Bev, I agree totally with you. Besides, there is no excuse not to use the
basic spell checker that is built-in to most mail programs. ,
I have an old version of Eudora on my
totally-obsolete-after-six-months-in-95 computer, and it has no
spellchecker. I know that I make gramatical errors (run on sentences are a
particular talent). However, expressing oneself so that others can
understand the context *is* important, otherwise reading and understanding
e-mail becomes a difficult task.
Bev said >>>>Well, except for KJ. We gave up on her a long time ago, and
now just accept
>it as an eccentricity on her part
Then Kim said >>>This must be some law of the 'Net; there is always one
person like this on
a list: sometimes I ask the list owner to say something to them, sometimes
I say something myself, but most of the time I just ignore them.<<<
What Bev was saying was that KJ has her own unique and interesting spelling
and grammer, and while many people jumped all over her for it early on, we
have now come to love and enjoy her posts. She has a great sense of humor,
knows how to laugh at herself, and expresses herself in a way that can be
quite enjoyable. I don't always agree with her views, but I always get a
kick out of reading her e-mail. Your remark about asking the list owner to
say something to someone who doesn't use correct spelling and grammer, on
the other hand, turned me off completely.
We do need to be able to accept people who might have difficulties in
expressing themselves in writing without errors. I have a particular
problem with overdoing the spelling/grammer thing, because my youngest son
is gifted and learning disabled. He can't spell worth a darn, but he
graduated from a top high school with a 4.0 average, and will graduate in
May from a five year program in computer engineering at RIT. He's already
been hired by a company where he has been co-oping for the last two years,
and will do quite well in life without the ability to spell well. The
computer is wonderful for him in schoolwork and business writing because of
spell checkers, grammer checkers, etc, but he told me he rarely uses them
in e-mail, because accessing them from his mail program is a pain, and he
feels the goal is to get your message across. He was an early internet
user and I'm sure people like you on his mailing lists sometimes wonder
about him, but I don't think that worries him at all. Not everyone wants
to reread every reply they make to e-mail, not everyone has the time to do
this. I think people should have the right to take part in a mailing list
whether their spelling and grammer are correct or not, as long as their
mail can be read and understood. Of course, they might be in for some
knocking about their errors, but people should just take that as a given
and ignore it.
Rene (who has her own pet peeve, people who write in all lower case
letters, because they are too busy to use the shift key . . .BULLETIN . .
.it takes way less time than using a (sometimes non-existant) spell checker
or constant re-reading, and even a third grader can do it!)
PS- I seem to be on a roll today, and having a sort of Jen-like reaction to
my mail. (love ya, Jen)
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9pm Eastern and again at 2am Eastern. 6pm Pacific and again at 11pm Pacific.
phantm
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9 PM ET from what the previous note said.
carole
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Can you please let me know what time Celebrity Dish airs this Sunday? I
erased it by mistake.
Thank you.
Regards,
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Just a brief blurb:
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Just a brief blurb:
<<<<GenevaThe guests have
been signed for ``The Wild Party,'' a musical opening next year on
Broadway. Actor-singer Mandy Patinkin will star with Toni Collette and
Eartha Kitt in the show based on the Jazz Age poem by Joseph Moncure
March. The musical will be directed by George C. Wolfe, who runs the
Public Theater. Patinkin, who stars in the CBS drama ``Chicago Hope,''
was born on Nov. 30, 1952.
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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 15:01:07 EST
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Shalom Meytal,
I'm not sure but I think that when a non-Jewish child is adopted by Jewish
parents the child has to go to the Mikvah. It is part of the conversion. By
the way it is VERY common for Jewish couples (even Orthodox) to adopt
non-jewish children.
Malki
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Subject: A Funny Postcard!
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Subject: now I get it!!:)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:28:14 PST
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hi to u all
thank u about what u tell me about the mikva
now I get it thank u
meytal :)
>From: [email protected]
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>Subject: Re: I still dont get it!!!!
>Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 15:01:07 EST
>
>Shalom Meytal,
>
>I'm not sure but I think that when a non-Jewish child is adopted by Jewish
>parents the child has to go to the Mikvah. It is part of the conversion.
>By
>the way it is VERY common for Jewish couples (even Orthodox) to adopt
>non-jewish children.
>
>Malki
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Thanks for the card. Happy Thanksgiving to all.
Life is what happens to you, while you are busy making other
plans.....................
Enjoy your day,
Barbara
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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:34:20 PST
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hi
Bev I agree wuth u too!!!
when u do that u making me not to do the same
mistak.
meytal
>From: "Kim F. Holec"
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Spelling and other problems (was: Re: Further Thoughts about Ali
>Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:45:44 -0500
>
>At 03:08 PM 11/23/99 -0500, [email protected] wrote:
>>In a message dated 11/22/99 3:18:08 PM Pacific Standard Time,
>>[email protected] writes:
>>
>><< No one should be condescending, but it's not fair to tell someone not
>>to
>>do
>> something simply because they made a grammatical error. If you take
>>pride
>>in
>> your grammar, that's fine. Just don't criticize others. JMHO >>
>>
>>Did I *TELL* anyone not to do anything? No.
>>
>>Everyone should have a basic grasp of English spelling, grammar and
>>punctuation, especially if English is their native tongue.
>
>I just love it when the non-native speakers apologize for their usage, and
>then they do better than us!
>
>Bev, I agree totally with you. Besides, there is no excuse not to use the
>basic spell checker that is built-in to most mail programs. Of course, it
>won't catch the mistakes like using "form" when one meant "from"; this
>typing error happens to me all the time. Now, I might not use caps when
>chatting, but I do try to write properly in email. Like any other form of
>communication, it is just not a one-way street. That's why I always re-read
>every post before I send it. All that other people have to judge you by are
>the words. Emoticons help, but they are no substitute for body language,
>facial expressions, and tone of voice. The clearer the message, the better
>chance you have of communicating with others, and that is what the Net is
>all about, right? If we are all here just to speak into a vacuum, we might
>as well go home.
>
>
>>Well, except for KJ. We gave up on her a long time ago, and now just
>>accept
>>it as an eccentricity on her part
>
>This must be some law of the 'Net; there is always one person like this on
>a list: sometimes I ask the list owner to say something to them, sometimes
>I say something myself, but most of the time I just ignore them. If they
>had anything important to say, they would make sure to couch it in a format
>that everyone else could easily understand; but hey, at least all small
>letters is a heck of a lot easier to read than all caps. When I first
>got on the Net ten years ago, there were a lot less people on it, and
>perhaps they took more trouble to explain netiquette to newcomers without
>flaming them. Of course, also then, newcomers were asked to observe for a
>while before they started posting, whether it was on a mailing list or in a
>newsgroup, so that they could learn the flow of the group dynamic, and fit
>in better when they did start posting. *sigh*
>
>Kim
>
>
>
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I just want to wish everyone a wonderful and blessed thanksgiving.
One of the many things that I am thankful for is being able to see Mandy
occasionaly on Chicago Hope.
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On Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:54:05 -0500 [email protected] (Rene Klein) writes:
>PS- I seem to be on a roll today, and having a sort of Jen-like
>reaction to
>my mail. (love ya, Jen)
ROFL!!! Thanks, Mom! Love ya too!!
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On Wed, 24 Nov 1999 02:22:41 EST writes:
>Jen, the best part about e-mail is that you can see who it's from, and
>delete it, without ever having to read it!
Wow! Yeah! That's the mature thing to say!
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In a message dated 11/24/99 8:54:59 AM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected]
writes:
<< She has a great sense of humor,
knows how to laugh at herself, and expresses herself in a way that can be
quite enjoyable. I don't always agree with her views, but I always get a
kick out of reading her e-mail. Your remark about asking the list owner to
say something to someone who doesn't use correct spelling and grammer, on
the other hand, turned me off completely.
We do need to be able to accept people who might have difficulties in
expressing themselves in writing without errors. I have >>
Well said, and thank you .
KJ~~feels better now.
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Hope everyone has a great day whether or not you are celebrating Thanksgiving.
Liz
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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 22:20:57 -0800
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><opening next year on Broadway. Actor-singer Mandy Patinkin will star
>with Toni Collette and Eartha Kitt in the show based on the Jazz Age
>poem by Joseph Moncure March.
Who has read "The Wild Party"? I started it and am having trouble
picturing it made into one musical, much less two in the same
year......Carol
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Subject: MP: 100 Greatest Stage Actors
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 00:39:44 -0700
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I don't recall if anyone has commented on this: in the latest edition of
In Theatre magazine, they list the 100 greatest stage actors. Mandy is not
among them.... perhaps he has been away from the stage too long.
Bernadette did make the list, however.
phantm
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Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 00:04:05 -0800
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Carol Matre writes:
>Who has read "The Wild Party"? I started it and am having trouble
>picturing it made into one musical, much less two in the same
>year......Carol
>
Well I've read a synopsis and I find I'm in agreement with you Carol. I
asked Mandy about it in Scottsdale and he said it will be "interesting".
And the music is "eclectic". Even he didn't know if it would be successful
or not, but he did say he had such a great time doing the workshop of it
that he wanted to do the show.
So I guess we'll have to wait and see.
/ Joanne
P.S. Yes, yes, I know Eileen won't get this message
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Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 00:53:39 -0800
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Rene wrote:
> Not everyone wants
>to reread every reply they make to e-mail, not everyone has the time to do
>this. I think people should have the right to take part in a mailing list
>whether their spelling and grammer are correct or not, as long as their
>mail can be read and understood. Of course, they might be in for some
>knocking about their errors, but people should just take that as a given
>and ignore it.
Personally, I never send an e-mail, or ANYTHING in writing, that I haven't
reread and proofed. (I just think of it as written evidence that I can
never get back or say I never wrote)! On the other hand, as Rene says, not
everyone does that. For whatever reason. It doesn't matter why. Or even
that they do.
I see the Internet as one more way of individuals expressing their own
personalities. This means that if someone wants to shout at us in all caps,
we should be able to take them at face value as they obviously made the
decision to shout at us. If someone is so lazy as to write in all small
letters or without any punctuation, we should be allowed to form a
conclusion about that. If someone uses bad grammar or poor spelling, then
that's okay too. But if person #2 wants to make an issue out of it, then
that is person #2's right to do so and it is a way for person #2 to express
his or her personality. The only problem I see is when people take any of
this personally. If you don't want anyone accusing you of using bad grammar
or spelling, then check your work before you subject others to it. If you
don't care, then fine. But be prepared to take some heat as there will
probably always be some people to whom this is important.
But none of this is personal, or at least it shouldn't be. The people who
do the criticizing shouldn't assume that the poor punctuator didn't care
enough about them personally to check their work before they sent it. They
didn't check it because it's not important to them. And the people who
receive the criticism shouldn't take it as an overall comment on their
fitness to live or to be on this List because the criticizer just cares
enough about the English language to want to see it used properly. And if
someone does mean or take any of this personally, then that person needs to
step back and get some perspective on what's going on here.
Bottom line: I say everybody should write the way they want to. And what
they want to. And be prepared for the same from everyone else. Until
Kathy Jo says enough already, she's bored. Then it's time to move on to
another topic. :-)
/ Joanne --> believe it or not, this was longer until I rewrote it and I
know it could have been even shorter but it's almost 1 a.m. and I'm tired of
this. I'm no longer even sure what my point is. But I'm sending it anyway
because I'm bound and determined that SMTP:[email protected] will sooner or
later get one of my messages or that Vera will take pity on us and
unsubscribe this person! :-)
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Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 05:53:18 -0600
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Comments: Originally To: "[email protected]" , [email protected]
At 12:39 AM 11/25/99 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>I don't recall if anyone has commented on this: in the latest edition of
>In Theatre magazine, they list the 100 greatest stage actors. Mandy is not
>among them.... perhaps he has been away from the stage too long.
>Bernadette did make the list, however.
Rats, sounds interesting, but there's not a copy of this within 30 miles at
least. Er, did KDK make the list? :)
DR
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