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Subject: MP: French Postcards/Ellis Island
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 21:21:54 EDT

For everyone who subscribed to Showtime so that they could get "Strange 
Justice", you might be getting a bonus.  They're showing "French Postcards".  
Small Mandy part.  His character is sludge.  Mandy is positively adorable, 
however, if you haven't seen it.

Showing:  Fri  Oct  1  01:15P;  Mon  Oct 11  04:15P;   Sun  Oct 17  11:30A;  
Tue  Oct 26  12:45P;  Fri  Oct 29  11:00A.   

The History Channel is showing Mandy narrated (and he appears at beginning 
and end of segments) Ellis Island:  Part 2:  Oct 13 1 pm  Part 3: Oct. 13, 6 
pm; Oct. 14 1 pm; Oct14, 6 pm.  Don't ask me what happened to part 1.

And if there is anyone who actually hasn't seen Maxie it's on A&E Oct. 14 at 
4 a.m.  or True Colors which is supposed to be on USA Oct 21 at 2 pm and Oct 
23 at 1 pm.

As for that 100th episode of Hope, the on-line TV guide lists it in the 8pm 
slot rather than the 11am on Oct. 6 on Lifetime.

Times are Pacific.  All info. from on-line TV guide, so I can't vouch for 
accuracy.

:->  Wendy


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Subject: Re: OFF: Anthony Warlow
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 19:47:30 -0700

Ms. Rosenfeldt wrote:
>I don't have this particular album because I've got all the stuff on it on
>other CDs, but unless he re-recorded "Lily's Eyes" especially for "Best
>of", he's not doing a duet with himself. In the Australian production,
>Neville was played by Philip Quast. I've made myself somewhat unpopular on
>the Warlow list on occasion (oh shutt up, everybody!) by asserting that
>the Australian highlights recording is inferior to the Broadway one mostly
>*because* Anthony and Philip do sound so similar. In that regard I much
>prefer the contrasts between Mandy's voice and Westenberg's - not just the
>ranges but the textures.

You are right. It says it's from the album of "Secret Garden." There's not
enough contrast in those voices. I was sure it was Warlow in both parts.
Mandy's is better.....especially that one soaring part.

>While I enjoy "The Main Event" (in fact, it's on my viewing schedule right
>after CH tonight, in the spirit of Double Your Pleasure), it does impress
>me as sort of a mega-sized lounge act

Right.....but a very good one :>     Carol

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Subject: CH tonight
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 23:01:03 -0400

Hi all, I loved the last half of the show tonight!  MP is back in fine =
Geiger form and I'm in heaven!  Mary

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Subject: Re: CH tonight
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 23:08:13 -0500

I'm with you on that one--it's great to see Geiger (and Mandy, but that
goes without saying) back on Chicago Hope. I hadn't realized just how
much I missed his presence--he keeps everyone on their toes.

I have a nitpicky question about tonight's show, though. Why does Alicia
have red hair? Yes, she was Alan's daughter, but was adopted, and so
theoretically should not look like his child. And as I recall, her
"mother" had dark brown hair and brown eyes. Sorry for being picky, but
her red-haired, blue-eyed appearance bothers me. ;)

Lauren

haroldf wrote:

>   Hi all, I loved the last half of the show tonight!  MP is back in
> fine Geiger form and I'm in heaven!  Mary



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Subject: Re: CH tonight
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 23:23:45 -0400 (EDT)

At 11:01 PM 9/30/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi all, I loved the last half of the show tonight!  MP is back in fine
Geiger form and I'm in heaven!  Mary
>

Yes, it was -great- to see him raging around the hospital like that.  And
screaming at the poor headmistress of the private school!  Really showed
that even though he got his way about the heart transplant, he felt really
terrible about it.  (I was thinking, while Geiger was confronting Philip
about it, that it must weigh upon a person a lot, to have to take a stand
like that and then rely upon what's essentially unreliable -- the health of
the transplant recipient, for instance -- to carry the project successfully
through.)  What Geiger needs is someone who can tell him 'no' when he's
wrong, and not only make it stick, but make him like it.

Oo, and judging from the preview he'll be there next week too!  oh bliss...

Brenda
Brenda W. Clough, author of HOW LIKE A GOD from Tor Books.
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Subject: Re: CH tonight
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 23:10:41 EDT

quite a fine performance by geiger, i must say.  and no non-medical crap in 
the script either.  but did anyone notice the show had the same title as the 
first season episode with the anencephalic baby?  hmm..........

laura :)

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Subject: Re: CH tonight
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 22:30:03 -0700

Brenda wrote:

>Oo, and judging from the preview he'll be there next week too!  oh bliss...

It was great. Now Mandy/Geiger just needs to relax into it a little. And
next week it looks like one of my favorite stage actors, Rene Auberjonois,
will be on it also!...Carol



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Subject: Re: CH tonight
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 22:38:49 -0700

At 11:08 PM -0500 9/30/99, Lauren Coggins wrote:
>
>I have a nitpicky question about tonight's show, though. Why does Alicia
>have red hair? Yes, she was Alan's daughter, but was adopted, and so
>theoretically should not look like his child. And as I recall, her
>"mother" had dark brown hair and brown eyes. Sorry for being picky, but
>her red-haired, blue-eyed appearance bothers me. ;)

I believe her mother was a blonde. (I'm not sure if there was any
"strawberry" in that blonde.  But we don't have a clue what the father
looked like, anyway.)   Birch didn't have red hair so I'm sure they are not
trying to make her look like him.

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Subject: MP:  Tonight's Episode
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 23:00:05 -0700

First impressions:

Interesting dilemma with great dramatic tension.  I was happy to see that
they didn't cop out and go for the sweet happy ending.  Tough medical
decisions sometimes involve terrible consequences.  I was very pleased that
CH was not afraid to show that just to keep the audience feeling "uplifted"
or "touched by an angel".

I am thoroughly enoying seeing Geiger again.  However, to borrow a
catchphrase from another favorite character on another favorite show, "I'm
troubled" by the Geiger's persistent rudeness. I know he was very abrasive
in season 1, however, I don't remember him being always and everywhere
rude. And there was a bit more wit in his caustic remarks in season 1 as I
recall.  I wish the writers would take the rudeness factor down a notch or
two.

In season 1, we had Laurie around to show Geiger's soft underbelly.  Now we
have Alicia to serve that function and I am glad of it.  Nonetheless, I'd
like to see more of Geiger's good qualities there to balance against the
harsh edge so much on display.

Mandy was terrific--such intensity!!!  He is mesmerizing every time he is
on screen.  However, dare I be sacreligious and comment that I thought he
was perhaps chewing too much of the scenery at the transplant meeting?

Were they trying to set up a future romance between Spaghetti Head and
Geiger a bit tonight?  Part of me hopes not... even though there have been
rumors to that affect. (Let Aaron have Spaghettie head, or Watters I say.
Although it appears there will be a contest between Shutt and McNeil for
the new neuro.)   I must say I liked Spaghetti head a lot more tonight,
however.  She looked better, I thought too.

I have to laugh at the credits at the opening.  Because CH is being
broadcast on HDTV, the opening credits are telling me that CH stars Dam
Arkin and Carla Ugino.

So Geiger really doesn't live in his office?  I am thrilled that we finally
saw where Geiger lives... if they'd only shown his bedroom ;P and not just
Alicia's.

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Subject: Re: MP:  Tonight's Episode
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 02:11:06 EDT

Hear, hear.  Jeffrey Geiger of season one could be quite charming at times.  
And he usually didn't go wacko on innocent bystanders (like the dean).  Just 
on his friends.  He used to have a sharp tongue that was funny.  Now he's 
just nasty.  And he never used to use ethnic slurs or crude sexist humor 
(i.e., is it that time of month?).  When he fought authority in the past, his 
reasoning usually wasn't this close to the line...now he just comes off as 
mean.
 
 <>

Yeah.  He always had more good qualities in the past, apart from his feelings 
for his loved ones.  I'm sorry, but just because a mean guy loves his kid, 
that doesn't make up for him being a jerk.  Which is the trend I'm seeing in 
how they're writing Geiger.
 
 <> 

Yuck, eew, puke.  They would be so much better off letting them spar.  Match 
wits, a la Geiger and Infante.  Only they should never, ever get together.

How come they always feel compelled to match up every female doctor with a 
male doctor right away??  I think it borders on sexist (like there are no 
other story lines they could follow with these women).  In the end, the 
relationship drama detracts from the medical drama.
 
 << So Geiger really doesn't live in his office?  I am thrilled that we 
finally
 saw where Geiger lives... if they'd only shown his bedroom ;P and not just
 Alicia's.>>

I was disappointed with the lack of thought given to his living quarters, 
though.  Geiger's a millionaire (if I remember the Picket Fences crossover 
correctly).  Why does he live in this cramped little apartment?  His dining 
room table was almost on top of his couch. :)

Laura

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Subject: Re: Tonight's Episode
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 23:43:57 -0700

phantm wrote:

>Mandy was terrific--such intensity!!!  He is mesmerizing every time he is
>on screen.  However, dare I be sacreligious and comment that I thought he
>was perhaps chewing too much of the scenery at the transplant meeting?
>

He WAS pretty dramatic at the meeting.  Other than his reaction after his
recipient died, the part that really struck me tonight (and maybe this is
weird and mundane), was watching his discomfort while the two heart patients
were lying side by side waiting for the elevator.  He was nearly coming out
of his skin wishing the elevator would hurry up and get there!  I nearly
came out of mine watching him.  What he can communicate with just his face
not to mention a few body movements is just breathtaking.  Welcome back
Mandy!


>Were they trying to set up a future romance between Spaghetti Head and
>Geiger a bit tonight.


Ick, I hope not!  So far, she has the personality and charisma of a wet
noodle.  And she kind of looks like one too -- I keep feeling an
overwhelming need to reach out and blot all the oil off her face.  She is
too old and boring for Geiger.  The only good thing is that she doesn't seem
to feel a need to be constantly proving herself to him or anybody else.  Nor
has she even come close to tears yet!


>Although it appears there will be a contest between Shutt and McNeil for
>the new neuro.)

I thought Aaron was very cute tonight, trying to figure out a way to make a
move on Gina Simon.  This is what I think he's best at -- being a little
befuddled and unsure of himself.

>I have to laugh at the credits at the opening.  Because CH is being
>broadcast on HDTV, the opening credits are telling me that CH stars Dam
>Arkin and Carla Ugino.
>

Did you notice Mark Harmon's name was first up tonight?  Poor Adam Arkin
still hasn't managed to get top billing each week.  You'd think they would
give it to him just for sticking it out forever.

>So Geiger really doesn't live in his office?  I am thrilled that we finally
>saw where Geiger lives... if they'd only shown his bedroom ;P and not just
>Alicia's.

Patience, Tanja.  It's only taken five years to get this far.  You know his
bedroom can't be far from Alicia's.  I myself found the phone booth in the
living room pretty interesting!

/ Joanne

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Subject: Tonights Show
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 23:13:00 EDT

Wow! What a show. Reminded me of Mandy in his earlier  CH days! I loved it!

Taylor

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Subject: Re: MP:  Tonight's Episode
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 02:15:46 EDT

In a message dated 9/30/99 10:59:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[email protected] writes:

<< etween Shutt and McNeil for
 the new neuro.)   I must say I liked Spaghetti head a lot more tonight,
 however.  She looked better, I thought too.
  >>
I will die if he goes for her, I think her cheek implants looked even larger 
tonight. And her personality is flat, or maybe its the writing.  Can they not 
just bring back Geri ?? I love her, I love them together. 
I do agree with everything else you said though. 

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Subject: Re: MP:  Tonight's Episode
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 00:03:18 -0700

Laura wrote:


>Hear, hear.  Jeffrey Geiger of season one could be quite charming at times.
>And he usually didn't go wacko on innocent bystanders (like the dean).
Just
>on his friends.  He used to have a sharp tongue that was funny.  Now he's
>just nasty.  And he never used to use ethnic slurs or crude sexist humor
>(i.e., is it that time of month?).


That's not what I remember.  He made some very nasty remarks to Camille when
she was separated from Aaron during the first season.  And he came on to Dr.
Winslow with a bathroom fetish.  And supposedly made some comment during
surgery about being prone to sexual harassment.  As originally written in
the first few episodes, I found myself cringing a lot when he opened his
mouth.  He told Austin that she probably didn't get listed as a top C-T
surgeon in that medical journal because people thought she was too
good-looking to be any good, although he personally didn't think she was
good-looking.

He made crude remarks to people all the time, particularly people he felt
uncomfortable with because he didn't know how to communicate with them in a
normal manner.  Remember that this is a man who, while he may have his
professional life well in stride, struggles constantly with his personal
life and relationships.  Right now the only person he seems to be able to
relate with normally and lovingly is Alicia and he's probably been so
focused on her that he's become even more incompetent in dealing with
everyone else, even his best friend in life Aaron.

I thought he was written a lot meaner during season two than so far this
season.  I'm keeping my fingers crossed that they know what they're doing
and that Mandy won't let them go too far with this.  I have to confess that
when he gloated to Phillip about getting the money for the new wing when
Phillip hadn't been able to, I laughed.  I mean, I thought he was being rude
and petty, but it was typical of  Jeffrey so I laughed.


>I was disappointed with the lack of thought given to his living quarters,
>though.  Geiger's a millionaire (if I remember the Picket Fences crossover
>correctly).  Why does he live in this cramped little apartment?  His dining
>room table was almost on top of his couch. :)


My guess is that Geiger always spent so much time at work that his living
quarters were unimportant to him.  His car probably means more to him than
his apartment.  Although you'd think now that he has Alicia, he would have
gotten more space, just for her and whoever he has helping care for her.

  As usual, not enough time in a one-hour show to truly explore the
Man.  They keep insisting on having other doctors and patients and illnesses
get in the way.  The cretins!

:-)  Joanne




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Subject: Re: CH tonight
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 02:11:15 EDT

In a message dated 9/30/99 10:38:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[email protected] writes:

<< 
 I believe her mother was a blonde. (I'm not sure if there was any
 "strawberry" in that blonde.  But we don't have a clue what the father
 looked like, anyway.)   Birch didn't h >>
Actually her mother did have brown hair and brown eyes, had sorta of a Ricky 
Lake look about her. Remember your man got in the shower with her? 
KJ

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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: MP:  CH
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 01:08:21 -0700

>I have a nitpicky question about tonight's show, though. Why does Alicia
>have red hair? Yes, she was Alan's daughter, but was adopted, and so
>theoretically should not look like his child. And as I recall, her
>"mother" had dark brown hair and brown eyes. Sorry for being picky, but
>her red-haired, blue-eyed appearance bothers me. ;)

I guess my memory is failing, as I thought I remembered a blonde mother of
Alicia.  I think I am confusing the hair color of the encephalitis baby
mom.  However, it is not uncommon in my family for children to be born with
blonde or red hair to a parent (or even parents) who do not have blonde or
red hair.

phantm
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: MP:  Geiger's Solution
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 01:16:31 -0700

Here's my solution to the overwrought Geiger we've seen in the last couple
of eps... The old Geiger didn't explode with rage and teeter on the edge of
a seeming breakdown quite the way this Geiger does.... The old Geiger had a
controlled rage most of the time which he'd generally vent/contain by
talking to Aaron in his office while tossing around a baseball and
occasionally.....  pacing in his boxers.  My solution is:  Bring back the

Phantom Pants!!!!!!


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Subject: Re: MP:  Geiger's Solution
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 04:23:15 EDT

In a message dated 10/1/99 1:16:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[email protected] writes:

<< 
 Phantom Pants!!!!!!
 
 
 phantm<--bias >>

AMEN sistahhhhh ! 
KJ

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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: MP:  Tonight's Episode
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 02:34:52 EDT

In a message dated 9/30/99 11:14:52 PM, [email protected] writes:

<<
<>

Hear, hear.  Jeffrey Geiger of season one could be quite charming at times.  
And he usually didn't go wacko on innocent bystanders (like the dean).  Just 
on his friends.  He used to have a sharp tongue that was funny.  Now he's 
just nasty.  And he never used to use ethnic slurs or crude sexist humor 
(i.e., is it that time of month?).  When he fought authority in the past, his 
reasoning usually wasn't this close to the line...now he just comes off as 
mean.
>>
...LOL tell us what you really think!!

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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: CH tonight(Alicia's hair)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 08:37:00 EDT

Red hair is believed to be a recessive gene, so 2 dark-haired parents can 
have red-haired kids, just as brown-eyed parents can have blue-eyed children. 
 All it takes is a redhead in the background somewhere on each parent.  (And, 
since we don't know who Alicia's genetic father is, it may not be that deep 
in the background) 

I like Alicia's appearance- that she doesn't look like every other TV kid.  
It does bug me, tough, the way her age changes... first she's pushing 7 (from 
that line about the Marfan surgery) and now she's applying for kindergarten-- 
probably 'way in advance, too, since that's how these schools operate.

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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: MP:  Geiger's Solution
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 09:09:48 EDT

In a message dated 10/1/99 5:10:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[email protected] writes:

<<  Phantom Pants!!!!!!
  
  
  phantm<--bias >>
 
 AMEN sistahhhhh ! 
 KJ >>

"Am i the only one hearin' the pants?  I'm hearing my pants, I'm not wearing 
them, I'm hearing Phantom Pant noises-  whip whip whip 
whip!"..............."Why are you not wearing pants?"................"Don't 
be smart when I'm not wearing pants, you know how I am 
pantless!"....................."I hear my pants now!  Thanks to you I 
actually hear my pants when I pace!!!"

Laura :)         (A semi- Quote For the Day!)

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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: MP:  Tonight's Episode
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 09:26:22 -0400 (EDT)

At 11:00 PM 9/30/99 -0700, you wrote:
>
>
>
>So Geiger really doesn't live in his office?  I am thrilled that we finally
>saw where Geiger lives... if they'd only shown his bedroom ;P and not just
>Alicia's.
>

Damn, you know that was my first thought too!

Brenda
Brenda W. Clough, author of HOW LIKE A GOD from Tor Books.
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: MP:  Geiger's Solution
Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 07:44:23 -0700

"[email protected]" wrote:

> ... The old Geiger had a
> controlled rage most of the time which he'd generally vent/contain by
> talking to Aaron in his office while tossing around a baseball and
> occasionally.....  pacing in his boxers.  My solution is:  Bring back the
>
> Phantom Pants!!!!!!
>
> phantm<--biased
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ROTFL!!!!!!  I'll second that 'solution'

Marianne



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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Geiger's Solution
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 10:50:30 -0400

I think the "overwrought" Geiger is a very effective plot device.  He's back
at the hospital after a 5 year absence, he's a single dad, and he's in
charge - he clearly doesn't have the same friendships with Aaron or Philip
that allowed him to relieve some of his stress and general insanity.  I
think  we'll see a breakdown of some sort sooner rather than later.  Also
Geiger has always been rude and prone to offensive remarks to anybody and
everybody, so I don't find that aspect of character out of whack with the
past.  Just my 2 cents!  Mary
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From: 
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Subject: MP: Geiger's Solution


> Here's my solution to the overwrought Geiger we've seen in the last couple
> of eps... The old Geiger didn't explode with rage and teeter on the edge
of
> a seeming breakdown quite the way this Geiger does.... The old Geiger had
a
> controlled rage most of the time which he'd generally vent/contain by
> talking to Aaron in his office while tossing around a baseball and
> occasionally.....  pacing in his boxers.  My solution is:  Bring back the
>
> Phantom Pants!!!!!!
>
>
> phantm<--biased
> ############################################################
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> http://www.petermacnicol.net  http://www.mandypatinkin.net
> ############################################################
>


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Subject: Re: OFF: Anthony Warlow
Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 10:21:11 -0500

>>> Carol Matre  09/30/99 09:47PM >>>
>Ms. Rosenfeldt wrote:

Hm. "Ms."....Is that a euphemism for "bitch"? ;)

>There's not enough contrast in those voices. I was sure it >was Warlow in =
both parts. Mandy's is better.....especially that >one soaring part.

Yes. I also think the rest of the Australian album is below the Broadway =
standard - the Dickon isn't as kewl as John Cameron Mitchell, I don't like =
the Lily's voice as much as Rebecca Luker's, and besides, it's just a =
"Highlights" album so a lot of nice stuff is missing.

>Right.....but a very good one=20

Oh, agreed. Although frankly I could live indefinitely without John =
Farnham.

DR


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To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: CH tonight (veering OFF)
Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 10:27:05 -0500

>>> Carol Matre  10/01/99 12:30AM >>>

>next week it looks like one of my favorite stage actors, Rene >Auberjonois=
, will be on it also!..

Yes, he's probably giddy to be out of his bucket. ;)

Does anybody remember him in an ABC Movie of the Week called "Panache"? It =
came out about the same time as the Richard Lester "3/4 Musketeers" movies =
and all those TV historicals with Richard Chamberlain. I remember =
"Panache" as being really good and have only seen it listed once on TV =
since then.

DR




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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Numbers
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 11:09:10 -0500

At 10:37 AM -0400 9/30/99,  wrote:
>In a message dated 9/29/99 8:45:34 PM, [email protected] writes:
>
><<
>So, someone can figure out when he started dating Kathryn. Someone probably
>knows who the actress was. There must be more. I'll throw in the 2 I know
>of if anyone else does....Carol
>
>>>
>
>maybe it was kendal(l)


Don't I wish ...

There once was an actress named Kendal
Who said to a singer named Mendel
"My dearest sweet Mandy
It sure would be dandy
If your thingamagig would just bend well."

KB

(OK, OK, rhyming things with my name has never been easy, you know.)





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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: CH tonight
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 22:09:01 -0700

Lauren Coggins wrote:
> 
> > I have a nitpicky question about tonight's show, though. Why does
> Alicia have red hair? Yes, she was Alan's daughter, but was adopted,
> and so theoretically should not look like his child. And as I recall,
> her "mother" had dark brown hair and brown eyes. Sorry for being
> picky, but her red-haired, blue-eyed appearance bothers me. ;)
> 
> Lauren
> 
>Hey Lauren,
Both my parents had dark hair and my sister and I are both redheads!
Genetics go back more than one generation (with regards to a child's
features, ya know) Laurie


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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Tonight's Episode (reply)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 13:49:00 EDT

In a message dated 9/30/99 11:53:47 PM, [email protected] writes:

<< I will die if he goes for her, I think her cheek implants looked even 
larger 
tonight. >>

It would gross me out too, KJ.  But I have to hand it to the woman, at least 
she didn't CRY when her patient died!

In a message dated 9/30/99 11:54:31 PM, [email protected] writes:

<>

I have to agree here, that was a great scene.

Besides fine acting, Hope raised significant philosophical questions:

1.  Is it more noble to save a poor man than a rich man?

2.  Is one more likely to get one's child into private school wearing Argyle 
socks than plain brown?

3.  How should donor organs be allotted?

4.  Why spruce yourself up to impress someone during an interview then wear a 
lose tie remove your jacket the moment you enter the room?

5.  Is it better to be a good person or a rich person or can a rich person be 
a good person?

6.  Was Geiger really trimming his nose hair on camera?

7.  Should people with Irish surnames be able to speak Polish?  (Why WAS that 
scene in there?)

8.  Would Mandy be mute if someone tied his hands behind his body?

Ah, points to ponder until next week.

;->  Wendy

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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Elmo
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 14:08:42 -0400

Went to see Elmo today (me and 10 mom's with 2 year olds who were all =
petrified by Huxley!!)  MP is a hoot - talk about scenery chewing!!  I =
don't think I have ever seen anyone having so much fun in a movie.  Now =
if I can only convince my 8 year old to go I'll get to see it again.  =
Mary    BTW, the NY Times reviews Elmo today - they give Mandy a nice =
review, but say the movie is a little too scary for its target audience. =
 Judging by the reaction of the toddlers at the screening I saw I'd say =
they're right!

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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: MP:  Geiger's Solution
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 14:12:23 EDT

In a message dated 10/1/99 1:16:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[email protected] writes:

<< My solution is:  Bring back the
Phantom Pants!!!!!!  >>

Somebody owes me some money. I was just *waiting* for this one to pop up 

And argyle socks, too?

BWAHAHAHAHA ...

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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Elmo review
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 16:02:09 -0400 (EDT)

The review in today's Washington POST is positive too.  The relevant
mention:  "Alas, the resident villain, Huxley (Mandy Patinkin, suitably
silly in a scenery-chewing turn), steals Elmo's wooby -- his word for the
blanket -- thus forcing the littlest muppet on a perilous quest to retrieve
it.  With help from his kooky minions, the Pesties, Huxley manages to throw
Elmo off the track again and again."

Brenda

Brenda W. Clough, author of HOW LIKE A GOD from Tor Books.
http://www.sff.net/people/Brenda


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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: CH Angela Cartright
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 15:58:42 EDT

In a message dated 9/27/99 12:25:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[email protected] writes:

> She's *Veronica* Cartwright. Totall different person than Angela.
>  
>  She was a guest star. She might pop up again, if only to sue the hospital 
> and 
>  give Alan Rosenberg more airtime ;->
>  
I swear the credits said Angela Cartwright.

Robin

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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Yet another Elmo review
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 18:27:37 -0400 (EDT)

It must be because of the Muppet connection, but this is a widely reviewed
movie.  From the Reston JOURNAL, one of those 'free' papers that just
arrives in your mailbox:

"Grouchland is ruled by Huxley, who descends from his high castle to steal
toys.  It is impossible for anyone who has ever been on a playground or in a
minivan to hear his motto without a shiver of recognition: 'If I touch it,
it's MINE.'  He puts the toys into a giant stamping machine that imprints
all with the word MINE.  He sings a song about 'Mine, Mine, Mine.'  Mandy
Patinkin brings this portrait of rampant consumerism to life with the aid of
some really huge eyebrows.  How can Elmo get Blankie back from such a meanie?"

Brenda
Brenda W. Clough, author of HOW LIKE A GOD from Tor Books.
http://www.sff.net/people/Brenda


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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: CH tonight
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 15:43:47 -0700 (PDT)

Well, she didn't have red hair before but then she was
just a baby...but what I noticed was that she didn't
have the body of a child going to kindergarten. As I
recall from seeing the children at that age they still
have a little baby fat and dimples on their hands. In
fact all the moms talked about it one day while
waiting for the cherubs...how they were still a little
bit baby, but by the first grade it was gone. I also
thought the interaction between him and the school
official was *beyond the pale*. I hope that they
aren't setting him up to get in some sanity battle
again. 
Renee- can't believe that the vcr didn't record as it
indicated
--- Lauren Coggins  wrote:
> I'm with you on that one--it's great to see Geiger
> (and Mandy, but that
> goes without saying) back on Chicago Hope. I hadn't
> realized just how
> much I missed his presence--he keeps everyone on
> their toes.
> 
> I have a nitpicky question about tonight's show,
> though. Why does Alicia
> have red hair? Yes, she was Alan's daughter, but was
> adopted, and so
> theoretically should not look like his child. And as
> I recall, her
> "mother" had dark brown hair and brown eyes. Sorry
> for being picky, but
> her red-haired, blue-eyed appearance bothers me. ;)
> 
> Lauren
> 
> haroldf wrote:
> 
> >   Hi all, I loved the last half of the show
> tonight!  MP is back in
> > fine Geiger form and I'm in heaven!  Mary
> 
> 
> 


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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: last nights ep.
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 15:52:45 -0700 (PDT)

It is my imagination or does Geiger seem more arrogant
this time around. He seemed actually  mean and callas
about that whole donation thing  but then mellowed out
and saw things differently, sort of like he developed
a conscious. Maybe the fact that he's the Boss now. I
hope they don't link him romantically. Hershey isn't
his type. Just my  thoughts
Karen  


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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Tonight's Episode
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 19:39:14 EDT

In a message dated 9/30/99 11:46:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[email protected] writes:

<< He was nearly coming out
 of his skin wishing the elevator would hurry up and get there!  I nearly
 came out of mine watching him.  What he can communicate with just his face
 not to mention a few body movements is just breathtaking.  Welcome back
 Mandy! >>


Amen Mandy is mesmerizing, and absolutely phenomenal as an 
actor...............father...........singer............and humble as hell!

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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: CH Angela Cartright
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 19:26:54 EDT

In a message dated 10/1/99 1:16:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[email protected] writes:

<< I swear the credits said Angela Cartwright. >>

I never saw the credits; I just recognized the actress ;-)

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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Tonight's Episode (reply)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 19:30:48 EDT

In a message dated 10/1/99 11:04:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[email protected] writes:

<< 6.  Was Geiger really trimming his nose hair on camera? >>

More than I can say for Mike Piazza of the NY Mets, who was engaged in a deep 
 "excavation exercise" whilst sitting on the bench yesterday afternoon. 
Both sides.

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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: CH Ratings
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 20:28:20 EDT

I couldn't agree more.  Frasier is the obstacle, not for us, I am certain for 
many viewers.   I am just sick over it.  I truly hope that Mandy's 
exceptional acting will win out.  Don't you just love the final scene at the 
private school?

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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Geiger's Solution
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 20:55:30 EDT

I agree with Mary.  Aaron Shutt kept Jeffrey in line.  He could let his 
demons have their day when Aaron was around, now he seems so lonely without a 
friend to turn to.
Clearly the writers have messed up. Many views would not pick it up but we 
sure do.  
Gina Simon was a CT surgeon in the last episode last season.  She was hired by
Kate Austin and found out she had to work for Geiger.  She returns this 
season as a neurosurgeon, what is that all about?  Geiger needs a love interest and 
sincerely hope it is not Barbara Hershey, Yuk!  Aaron will end up with Gina Simon.  
David Kelly's only success at saving this show is Mandy.  I am sure they will 
have him singing in the very near future.
Just my 2 cents for what it is worth.
Karen

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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Geiger's Solution
Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 21:23:02 -0500

I'm not quite as opposed to the Alberghetti/Geiger romance thing as everyone else
here seems to be, but I will admit that--cheeks and *ugh* red hair aside--they
simply don't work as a couple. I'd give anything to see Geri Infante back on the
show . . . somehow. She and Geiger were my favorite TV couple ever, even though
their relationship was short-lived. On another romantic--off topic from MP--note,
how does everyone feel about Aaron and Gina Simon? I think there might be a future
there--hopefully-- though, as with Infante, I'd love to see Karen Antonovich back
(which is obviously impossible).

Who said Gina Simon was a CT surgeon in the last eppy from last season? Karen?
That was observant, and you've got a better memory than I do. I feel like a dolt
for missing that . . .

Lauren

[email protected] wrote:

> I agree with Mary.  Aaron Shutt kept Jeffrey in line.  He could let his
> demons have their day when Aaron was around, now he seems so lonely without a
> friend to turn to.
> Clearly the writers have messed up. Many views would not pick it up but we
> sure do.
> Gina Simon was a CT surgeon in the last episode last season.  She was hired by
> Kate Austin and found out she had to work for Geiger.  She returns this
> season as
> a neurosurgeon, what is that all about?  Geiger needs a love interest and
> sincerely
> hope it is not Barbara Hershey, Yuk!  Aaron will end up with Gina Simon.
> David Kelly's only success at saving this show is Mandy.  I am sure they will
> have him singing in the very near future.
> Just my 2 cents for what it is worth.
> Karen




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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Tonight's Episode (reply)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 18:30:08 -0700

Wendy wrote:

>Besides fine acting, Hope raised significant philosophical questions:

Is this like an exam?!! OK....

>1.  Is it more noble to save a poor man than a rich man?

No, but it's the way things work. It's just not usually discussed in a
conference room.

>2.  Is one more likely to get one's child into private school wearing Argyle
>socks than plain brown?

Depends on the shape of the legs.

>3.  How should donor organs be allotted?

There are books on the theory of that one. But being in the right place at
the right time and having connections works.
>
>4.  Why spruce yourself up to impress someone during an interview then wear a
>lose tie remove your jacket the moment you enter the room?

To appear professional and then to let the other person relax by "dressing
down." Not exactly the effect Geiger had though.
>
>5.  Is it better to be a good person or a rich person or can a rich person be
>a good person?

It's better to be filthy rich.
>
>6.  Was Geiger really trimming his nose hair on camera?

Saw "Elmo" today and he was trimming his nose and ear hairs....and I
thought...Mandy has to have added that bit.

>
>7.  Should people with Irish surnames be able to speak Polish?  (Why WAS that
>scene in there?)

To frustrate Geiger?

>8.  Would Mandy be mute if someone tied his hands behind his body?

Good point.

>
>Ah, points to ponder until next week.

Please let me know my grade and thank you for not asking about the color of
Alicia's hair or that Veronica (or not) person)....Carol



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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Geiger's Solution
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 21:48:18 -0400

Ooops!  You guys are mixing up Natasha Gregson Wagner (the 12 year old CT
surgeon) with Gina Simon (Carla Gugino).  I think the confusion may be that
Simon had very curly hair in the last episode of last season and now she's
channeling the spirit and looks of Lisa Catera!  Also Variety reviewed Elmo
and said that Mandy is channelling the spirit of Anthony Newley!  LOL - and
you know what? They're right!  Mary
----- Original Message -----
From: Lauren 
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: Geiger's Solution


> I'm not quite as opposed to the Alberghetti/Geiger romance thing as everyone else
> here seems to be, but I will admit that--cheeks and *ugh* red hair aside--they
> simply don't work as a couple. I'd give anything to see Geri Infante back on the
> show . . . somehow. She and Geiger were my favorite TV couple ever, even though
> their relationship was short-lived. On another romantic--off topic from MP--note,
> how does everyone feel about Aaron and Gina Simon? I think there might be a future
> there--hopefully-- though, as with Infante, I'd love to see Karen Antonovich back
> (which is obviously impossible).
>
> Who said Gina Simon was a CT surgeon in the last eppy from last season? Karen?
> That was observant, and you've got a better memory than I do. I feel like a dolt
> for missing that . . .
>
> Lauren
>
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> > I agree with Mary.  Aaron Shutt kept Jeffrey in line.  He could let his
> > demons have their day when Aaron was around, now he seems so lonely without a
> > friend to turn to.
> > Clearly the writers have messed up. Many views would not pick it up but we
> > sure do.
> > Gina Simon was a CT surgeon in the last episode last season.  She was hired by
> > Kate Austin and found out she had to work for Geiger.  She returns this
> > season as
> > a neurosurgeon, what is that all about?  Geiger needs a love interest and
> > sincerely
> > hope it is not Barbara Hershey, Yuk!  Aaron will end up with Gina Simon.
> > David Kelly's only success at saving this show is Mandy.  I am sure they will
> > have him singing in the very near future.
> > Just my 2 cents for what it is worth.
> > Karen
>
>
>
>


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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Geiger's Solution
Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 21:51:10 -0500

So what happened to Natasha Gregson Wagner? Was she never intended to be a
member of the cast, or did her role not pan out? Thinking back, I guess they
*are* two different people (but it's confusing!). But why would they introduce a
new character for one show? Where's the logic?

Oh, I forgot that the people at CH sometimes forget to use logic. Or reason, or
common sense, for that matter. That, aside from Geiger's absence, would explain
the years-long gap we've had between quality episodes. ;)

Lauren

haroldf wrote:

> Ooops!  You guys are mixing up Natasha Gregson Wagner (the 12 year old CT
> surgeon) with Gina Simon (Carla Gugino).  I think the confusion may be that
> Simon had very curly hair in the last episode of last season and now she's
> channeling the spirit and looks of Lisa Catera!  Also Variety reviewed Elmo
> and said that Mandy is channelling the spirit of Anthony Newley!  LOL - and
> you know what? They're right!  Mary




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