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Subject: Tonight!
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 09:11:17 -0400 (EDT)
The premiere is tonight!! And here's a review from today's Washington POST:
Stash those defibrilator paddles, shut off the heart-lung machine and 86 the
oxygen tank. 'Chicago Hope' is not worth keeping alive. This horrible,
cynical CBS medical show should have been allowed to expire last spring, but
instead, series creator David E. Kelley came back to try very artificial
respiration.
Many of the old cast members are gone but the setting remains the same, a
Chicago hospital where the doctors are cranks, jerks or prma donnas. CH is
just the show for people who feel insufficiently terrified at the prospect
of ever having to be admitted to a hospital
The definitively insufferable Mandy Patinkin returns for a guest shot as Dr.
Jeffrey Geiger, who at first refuses to perform a life-saving operation on a
7-year old boy because he wants to sit in his office and play with electric
trains.
Now did somebody get up on the wrong side of bed or what? The full review is
up at www.washingtonpost.com, on their Style page.
Regards,
Brenda
Brenda W. Clough, author of HOW LIKE A GOD from Tor Books.
http://www.sff.net/people/Brenda
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Subject: From the New York Times
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 08:23:50 -0500
September 23, 1999
TELEVISION REVIEW
'Chicago Hope': Back With a Darker View
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he new opening credits for "Chicago Hope," with swelling music and actors' =
faces taking turns on the screen, make it look like a retread of "Dynasty."=
That is exactly the wrong image. The aging show had degenerated into soap =
opera. But with its creator, the everywhere-at-once David E. Kelley, =
determined to revamp it, the series returns Thursday night with a darker =
outlook: more focused on medicine, more cynical about doctors and bloodier =
than ever. Except for the blood gushing onto the operating room floor, the =
sharper approach works.=20
Though half the cast has been replaced, the series has not been reinvented;=
it is still about a hospital in the forefront of medical techniques. But =
it has taken on an ambiguous tone that makes it seem like a companion =
piece to "The Practice," Kelley's piercing show about good lawyers, bad =
lawyers and, often, good lawyers who do not-quite-legal things.=20
The most intriguing part of Thursday night's "Chicago Hope" takes a =
similar approach to doctors, revealing some nasty professional secrets. =
The story involves a patient who dies after having liposuction. No one can =
find the plastic surgeon who abandoned him in the recovery room, so two =
neurosurgeons, Gina Simon (Carla Gugino, new to the series) and Aaron =
Shutt (Adam Arkin, a mainstay from the old cast), argue about who has to =
tell the man's wife he is dead.=20
The plastic surgeon (Bruce Davison, in a guest role) is found trading =
stocks on the Internet. And depictions of the money-grubbing, overextended =
aspect of the medical profession get harsher. People scheduled for surgery =
may want to avoid this, or they may want to watch in self-defense.=20
It wouldn't be a Kelley show without at least one ridiculous over-the-top =
element, though. That comes Thursday night when a priest is wheeled into =
the hospital. "What have we got?" Dr. Keith Wilkes (Rocky Carroll, another =
good holdover) asks the paramedic.=20
"Severed penis," she answers, holding up a plastic bag full of red fluid. =
"It's right here," ready to be sewn back on. There is a ludicrous =
explanation for the priest's condition, however medically plausible the =
reattachment may be.=20
With more emphasis on medicine, the show is left with the danger that the =
characters will be no more than coat hangers for moral and medical issues. =
Most additions to the cast have qualities so neatly set up, the writers =
will have to struggle to make them surprising. Barbara Hershey plays a =
cool, arrogant heart surgeon; cool and arrogant go without saying for this =
show's heart surgeons. With long red curls, she looks as if she's trying =
too hard to live up to her glamorous name, Francesca Alberghetti.=20
[What, not "Lamborghini" or "Maserati"??? -- DR]
Lauren Holly plays her opposite, a down-to-earth plastic surgeon with =
flowing straight blond hair who sits with her feet on a chair. Mandy =
Patinkin, who appeared in the series' early seasons, returns as Dr. =
Jeffrey Geiger. Together, these three try to save a little boy with a =
cleft palate and a life-threatening condition, Marfan syndrome. Patinkin's =
character is the most absorbing, as he veers between his deeply bred =
superciliousness and his devotion to his young daughter.=20
Kelley will not write all of this season's episodes. Next week's, written =
by Gardner Stern, involves two men, one rich and one poor, vying for a =
heart transplant. The script has a similar dark vision of the medical =
profession and a similar undertone that says the docs are basically good. =
Neither episode is wildly engrossing, but both are intriguing enough to =
point toward a future for the series and to justify this salvage mission =
on a show that was ripe for cancellation.=20
PRODUCTION NOTES:=20
'CHICAGO HOPE'=20
9 p.m. Thursdays on CBS=20
Michael Pressman and Henry Bromell, executive producers; Gardner Stern, =
co-executive producer; David E. Kelley, creator/executive consultant. =
Produced by David E. Kelley Productions in association with 20th Century =
Fox Television.=20
With: Adam Arkin (Dr. Aaron Shutt), Mandy Patinkin (Dr. Jeffrey Geiger), =
Rocky Carroll (Dr. Keith Wilkes), Carla Gugino (Dr. Gina Simon), Lauren =
Holly (Dr. Jeremy Hanlon), Barbara Hershey (Dr. Francesca Alberghetti), =
Mark Harmon (Dr. Jack McNeil), and Bruce Davison (Dr. Burt Peters).=20
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Subject: From the New York Times
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 08:23:50 -0500
September 23, 1999
TELEVISION REVIEW
'Chicago Hope': Back With a Darker View
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By CARYN JAMES
he new opening credits for "Chicago Hope," with swelling music and actors' =
faces taking turns on the screen, make it look like a retread of "Dynasty."=
That is exactly the wrong image. The aging show had degenerated into soap =
opera. But with its creator, the everywhere-at-once David E. Kelley, =
determined to revamp it, the series returns Thursday night with a darker =
outlook: more focused on medicine, more cynical about doctors and bloodier =
than ever. Except for the blood gushing onto the operating room floor, the =
sharper approach works.=20
Though half the cast has been replaced, the series has not been reinvented;=
it is still about a hospital in the forefront of medical techniques. But =
it has taken on an ambiguous tone that makes it seem like a companion =
piece to "The Practice," Kelley's piercing show about good lawyers, bad =
lawyers and, often, good lawyers who do not-quite-legal things.=20
The most intriguing part of Thursday night's "Chicago Hope" takes a =
similar approach to doctors, revealing some nasty professional secrets. =
The story involves a patient who dies after having liposuction. No one can =
find the plastic surgeon who abandoned him in the recovery room, so two =
neurosurgeons, Gina Simon (Carla Gugino, new to the series) and Aaron =
Shutt (Adam Arkin, a mainstay from the old cast), argue about who has to =
tell the man's wife he is dead.=20
The plastic surgeon (Bruce Davison, in a guest role) is found trading =
stocks on the Internet. And depictions of the money-grubbing, overextended =
aspect of the medical profession get harsher. People scheduled for surgery =
may want to avoid this, or they may want to watch in self-defense.=20
It wouldn't be a Kelley show without at least one ridiculous over-the-top =
element, though. That comes Thursday night when a priest is wheeled into =
the hospital. "What have we got?" Dr. Keith Wilkes (Rocky Carroll, another =
good holdover) asks the paramedic.=20
"Severed penis," she answers, holding up a plastic bag full of red fluid. =
"It's right here," ready to be sewn back on. There is a ludicrous =
explanation for the priest's condition, however medically plausible the =
reattachment may be.=20
With more emphasis on medicine, the show is left with the danger that the =
characters will be no more than coat hangers for moral and medical issues. =
Most additions to the cast have qualities so neatly set up, the writers =
will have to struggle to make them surprising. Barbara Hershey plays a =
cool, arrogant heart surgeon; cool and arrogant go without saying for this =
show's heart surgeons. With long red curls, she looks as if she's trying =
too hard to live up to her glamorous name, Francesca Alberghetti.=20
[What, not "Lamborghini" or "Maserati"??? -- DR]
Lauren Holly plays her opposite, a down-to-earth plastic surgeon with =
flowing straight blond hair who sits with her feet on a chair. Mandy =
Patinkin, who appeared in the series' early seasons, returns as Dr. =
Jeffrey Geiger. Together, these three try to save a little boy with a =
cleft palate and a life-threatening condition, Marfan syndrome. Patinkin's =
character is the most absorbing, as he veers between his deeply bred =
superciliousness and his devotion to his young daughter.=20
Kelley will not write all of this season's episodes. Next week's, written =
by Gardner Stern, involves two men, one rich and one poor, vying for a =
heart transplant. The script has a similar dark vision of the medical =
profession and a similar undertone that says the docs are basically good. =
Neither episode is wildly engrossing, but both are intriguing enough to =
point toward a future for the series and to justify this salvage mission =
on a show that was ripe for cancellation.=20
PRODUCTION NOTES:=20
'CHICAGO HOPE'=20
9 p.m. Thursdays on CBS=20
Michael Pressman and Henry Bromell, executive producers; Gardner Stern, =
co-executive producer; David E. Kelley, creator/executive consultant. =
Produced by David E. Kelley Productions in association with 20th Century =
Fox Television.=20
With: Adam Arkin (Dr. Aaron Shutt), Mandy Patinkin (Dr. Jeffrey Geiger), =
Rocky Carroll (Dr. Keith Wilkes), Carla Gugino (Dr. Gina Simon), Lauren =
Holly (Dr. Jeremy Hanlon), Barbara Hershey (Dr. Francesca Alberghetti), =
Mark Harmon (Dr. Jack McNeil), and Bruce Davison (Dr. Burt Peters).=20
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Subject: more reviews
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 10:59:14 EDT
this from an ATlanta paper:
A shot in the arm for season starter 'Chicago Hope'
"Another pizza-sucking peasant, just what this hospital needs," is how
newly arrived Dr. Alberghetti is intorduced tonight by J.G. the most
irresistibly hated character on TV, back with a vengeance.
Geiger always centered this show, and when he left during the second
season, it started to wander off into one tedious wilderness.
And it is still unclear how frequent Patinkin's role will be this season.
What is clear is that he should appear in as many scenes as possible; he's
what distinguishes "CH" from everything else on TV."
Drew Jubera
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Subject: Re: Tonight!
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 12:17:07 EDT
In a message dated 9/23/99 6:15:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected]
writes:
<< Chicago Hope' is not worth keeping alive. >>
The review in our local paper is poor, as well, but it does commend Mandy and
Adam for keeping it interesting.....at least they like Mandy!
Sharon
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Subject: Re: more reviews
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 12:20:04 EDT
In a message dated 99-09-23 11:12:57 EDT, [email protected] writes:
> And it is still unclear how frequent Patinkin's role will be this season.
> What is clear is that he should appear in as many scenes as possible; he's
> what distinguishes "CH" from everything else on TV.
Since this WAS from an Atlanta paper, I figure the following comment is in
order:
"You ain't just whistlin' Dixie!" (Honestly, I don't know the origin of the
phrase, but a modern translation would be "Damn straight!" )
Carol P. <------------glad to know that there is at least a decent reviewer
in Atlanta....
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To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: more reviews
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 12:19:58 EDT
In a message dated 9/23/99 8:12:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< What is clear is that he should appear in as many scenes as possible; he's
what distinguishes "CH" from everything else on TV."
>>
I hope Mandy sees this one.......at least he's getting good reviews, if not
the show. We, of course, know that Mandy distinguishes himself from
everything else - no matter what we are doing. Nobody holds a flame next to
our man if he puts his heart into it. We love you mandy, oh yes we
do......
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To: [email protected]
Subject: MP: Mandy Auction Item
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:49:07 EDT
I found the following item at 13th Annual Broadway Flea Market & Grand
Auction.
I COULD WRITE A BOOK
A. BROADWAY DAY AND NIGHT book, autographed by authors Tom Viola and Rodger
McFarlane and some of those who tell their stories, including Jane Alexander,
Betty Buckley, Carol Channing, Tyne Daly, Alan Eisenberg, William Finn,
Victor Garber, Jack Goldstein, Jonathan Hadary, Julie Harris, Gregory Hines,
Dorothy Loudon, Ian McKellen, Spiro Malas, Ken Marsolais, Peter Neufeld,
MANDY PATINKIN, Lynn Redgrave, Chita Rivera, Jason Robards, Vincent Sardi,
Woody Shelp, Gwen Verdon, Julie Wilson and B.D. Wong.>>
See website for whole list (nice stuff to dream about owning):
http://www.bcefa.org/events/auction_list.htm
Looks like lots of celebs are going to be there (if you're in NYC and can get
there and get in). MP is not on their celeb list.
THE 13TH ANNUAL BROADWAY FLEA MARKET AND GRAND AUCTION
Sunday, September 26 (Raindate: October 3)
10AM-7PM / Grand Auction Begins at 4PM
Shubert Alley and 44th Street (between Broadway and Eighth Avenue)
The following item sounds like a fun one that would interest anyone on this
list (except, of course, TT ;)
<>
:-> Wendy
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Subject: MP: testing - ignore
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:14:47 -0700
testing
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Subject: MP: Auction items
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:21:34 -0700
<>
:-> Wendy>>
And just in case you'd like to take a peek at the Malibu Beach Inn...
http://www.malibubeachinn.com/
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Subject: Re: MP: Auction items
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 18:43:01 EDT
I am sure Phantm has this all wrapped up
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To: [email protected]
Subject: MP: (Off, a little) CD
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 09:24:18 +1000
On Thursday, when talking about Sean McDermott, I wrote:
<<< The 1% connection is that Sean took over from Stephen Bogardus as
Whizzer in Falsettos (I suppose, after Mandy left - or did MP sit in bed
with Sean too)? :> >>>
Well, yestereday I paid for the CD and the first thing I did was look
through the booklet. There are a few pages of photos of Sean in various
productions - including a 'posed-for' photo from Falsettos. ---- Mandy WAS
still in it when Sean took over from Stephen Bogardus!!!! :) There was a
picture of Mandy and Sean 'playing' squash. MP wearing his New Balance
runners (and with his sport socks pulled up over the ends of his [light
blue] track pant legs).
Having got over the shock of suddenly seeing Mandy in that shot I looked at
the smaller photos of Sean, with various people, just inside the back of
the booklet .... and there HE was again! Looking completely gorgeous! (I'm
going to have to get that small (1.125"x1.5") pic enlarged).
I'm kinda glad I bought the CD! :)
SueH
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Subject: Re: MP: Auction items
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 17:52:47 -0700
At 06:43 PM 09/23/1999 EDT, [email protected] wrote:
>I am sure Phantm has this all wrapped up
>
>
;) I'm grateful not to be entering a bidding war with any of you on this
one! Not only have I been to the Ally set and lunched with one of its
stars a couple of times, but I work in Malibu and don't really need a hotel
room there. So I guess I'll pass on this auction.
phantm
Mandy Patinkin Showcase
http://www.mandypatinkin.net
Peter MacNicol Page
http://www.petermacnicol.net
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Subject: HURRAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 19:18:40 -0700 (PDT)
It is SSSSSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GREAT to have
GEIGER BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Ericka,
just calm down. He is back, but you don't need to
go crazy and scream.(OH YES I DO!!!!!!!)) I
really need to calm down. I pity the teachers and
students at school tomorrow. I just hope that the
Sudafed works. It makes me drowsy and just not so
darn hyper. HE'S BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ericka<---------- Sorry for all of the screaming.
I shriek for a Halloween song in band, and,um a,
I'm just practicing. Yeah! That's it!
=====
=======================================
Jeffery Geiger:"Do you always anwser
a question with a question?"
Aaron Shutt:"Does that bother you?"
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
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To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Tonight!
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 22:08:48 EDT
In a message dated 9/23/1999 9:15:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< stuff>
The definitively insufferable Mandy Patinkin returns for a guest shot as Dr.
Jeffrey Geiger, who at first refuses to perform a life-saving operation on a
7-year old boy because he wants to sit in his office and play with electric
trains. >>
Tom Shales of the Washington Post hates CH and Mandy--he never has a good
word to say about wither. He is a big ER fan and favored that show from the
first. I was expecting a snotty review. And he was wrong on the plot line!!
of course!!
guess mandy just isnt his type.....
--C
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Subject: re: Mandy in CH
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 22:14:35 EDT
Hi all
Just saw CH--as did everyone in my time zone I am sure!!! Geiger's character
built nicely and some dimensions were added (although some did not seem to
work well to me), but who decide the billing??? Mandy is being billed
fourth!!!!!!!!!!! I was furious!!
eerrgg
the CBS website has a viewer's poll up---with some preset choices which are
a little odd--but you can vote for Geiger as your favorite "new" character!!
--C.....also wondering who dressed lauren holly...
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Subject: Re: Mandy in CH
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 22:58:26 -0400
Hi, my 2 cents on the show: Geiger is great - the rest of the show was OK.
Barbara Hershey didn't even register, but I liked Lauren Holly. This was
Adam Arkin's best show in years - I love the little tension scene between
Shutt and Geiger. Methinks a showdown is brewing for them. I also liked
the little girl playing Alicia. As for MP's billing, I'd guess he was
willing to accept 4th billing in exchange for a ton of money and a flex
schedule! Mary p.s. I loved the first scene with Geiger giving the tour to
the Asian men. LOL!
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To:
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 1999 10:14 PM
Subject: re: Mandy in CH
> Hi all
>
>
> Just saw CH--as did everyone in my time zone I am sure!!! Geiger's
character
> built nicely and some dimensions were added (although some did not seem to
> work well to me), but who decide the billing??? Mandy is being billed
> fourth!!!!!!!!!!! I was furious!!
>
> eerrgg
>
>
> the CBS website has a viewer's poll up---with some preset choices which
are
> a little odd--but you can vote for Geiger as your favorite "new"
character!!
>
> --C.....also wondering who dressed lauren holly...
>
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Subject: Re: Mandy in CH
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 23:17:30 EDT
In a message dated 99-09-23 23:06:00 EDT, [email protected] writes:
<< I also liked the little girl playing Alicia. >>
I thought some of the script was weak but the best scene for me was with
alysia and the hair lip boy and geiger.....was it my imagination or did she
mimic her dad's frown? I mean no OFFENSE to anyone.......but as the mother
of 2 little girls......Alysia's hair screamed of a motherless
child.......which I *loved*.
Things seemed a tad forced tonight....but HOPEful.
Mary< ~~promised to tape the show for Renee......the phone rang.....I am not
making this up......4 different times between 8:55 and 9:00. I was in a
major panic
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Subject: Re: Tonight!
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 23:39:35 EDT
Absolutely agree. Tom Shales never has anything good to say about almost
every film and TV show I like. So I just figure I will like anything he rags
on!
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Subject: Re: Mandy in CH
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 01:19:44 EDT
In a message dated 9/23/99 7:45:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected]
writes:
<<
--C.....also wondering who dressed lauren holly...
>>
And why she put her feet up in that meeting.. And why Barbara Hershey looked
like she had 3 face lifts gone bad..and the other gal had collagen injections
that would make Melanie Griffin's lips look small. and why they put all
those stupid colors in the intro?
But I LOVED It in the end, I loved him being back. I LOVED IT! When he
refereed to the girl that he had done the operation on 7 years ago I just
went to pieces, that was one of my favorite episodes.
KJ<~ Very Happy with the show.
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Subject: Re: more reviews
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 22:37:11 -0700
Does anyone know where I can obtain a copy of tonight's full cast list?
I am interested in finding out the name of the actor playing the
attorney who represented the hospital. The one with the nasal voice.
Thanks
Jason in Phoenix<-----found out wednesday he can't see Mandy in concert
in November, due to a show conflict...;-(
[email protected] wrote:
>
> In a message dated 9/23/99 8:12:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> [email protected] writes:
>
> << What is clear is that he should appear in as many scenes as possible; he's
> what distinguishes "CH" from everything else on TV."
> >>
>
> I hope Mandy sees this one.......at least he's getting good reviews, if not
> the show. We, of course, know that Mandy distinguishes himself from
> everything else - no matter what we are doing. Nobody holds a flame next to
> our man if he puts his heart into it. We love you mandy, oh yes we
> do......
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Subject: Re: more reviews
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 02:18:17 EDT
The actor who played the lawyer is Alan Rosenberg.
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Subject: Re: Mandy in CH
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 23:48:20 -0800
At 1:19 AM -0400 9/24/99, wrote:
>But I LOVED It in the end, I loved him being back. I LOVED IT! When he
>refereed to the girl that he had done the operation on 7 years ago I just
>went to pieces, that was one of my favorite episodes.
Interesting that he said 7 years ago, as that episode aired in "our time" 5
years ago (the fall of 1994). I'm not sure if they've fast forwarded a
couple of years to explain the size of Alicia or what. It seems that CH
is operating on a different timeline than the viewers.
phantm
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Subject: Re: Mandy in CH
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 02:06:59 -0500
At 11:48 PM 9/23/99 -0800, phantm wrote:
>Interesting that he said 7 years ago, as that episode aired in "our time" 5
>years ago (the fall of 1994). I'm not sure if they've fast forwarded a
>couple of years to explain the size of Alicia or what. It seems that CH
>is operating on a different timeline than the viewers.
This one had me counting on my fingers as well. Actually, as shocking as it
seems for her to be so big, Alicia's age is about right - she was almost two
when Jeffrey left. But if season one took place roughly in "our" time, which
it gave every appearance of having done, the other Marfan surgery was 5
years ago.
Poor Geiger seems to have a number problem -- first the number of bullets in
Alan Birch's body, and now this.
DR <-- whipping out a resume for continuity consultant
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Subject: Re: Mandy in CH
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 00:25:37 -0700
phantm wrote:
>
>Interesting that he said 7 years ago, as that episode aired in "our time" 5
>years ago (the fall of 1994). I'm not sure if they've fast forwarded a
>couple of years to explain the size of Alicia or what. It seems that CH
>is operating on a different timeline than the viewers.
I, for one, felt better as soon as he said that. Because my first reaction
upon seeing Alicia was oops, she's way too old. But saying it had been 7
years fixed that.
KJ wrote:
>And why Barbara Hershey looked like she had 3 face lifts gone bad..
Thank you KJ! I was trying to figure out what kind of plastic surgery she
must have had. Not that she looked bad. Just like she had to wear a lot of
makeup or something to look as good as she did. I really hope she doesn't
have some romantic fling with Geiger -- she's too old for him.
And as for Alicia: MY favorite scene was at the end when she climbed up and
cuddled with him -- LUCKY little girl!!!
/ Joanne
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I'm transplanting my comments from the ch newsgroup, so pardon any
redundancies:
Not on par with episodes like Quarantine and Love and Hope from season one, but
a good start nonetheless towards reviving this ailing show, IMO. It was
damn good to see Geiger roaming the hospital again and playing with trains.
I thought
Lauren Holly and Mandy Patinkin were the standouts as far as acting, along with
Bruce Davison in an excellent guest turn. (I kind of wish Bruce Davison would
stick around the show a while, despite the fact that he plays a doctor who is
clearly careless.) I am not sure what to think of Dr. "Spa"ghetti yet. (But
is it even possible for her to be as annoying as Kate Austin? I think not.)
I liked the scenes with Geiger and his(/Birch's) daughter Alicia. Seems to be
good chemistry there. Although the actress portraying Alicia appears to be a
tad old for the role. Alicia was born in early 1995 as I recall (January 1995
is when the birth episode aired, I believe). If CH is in real time with the
audience, then she would be just shy of 5. On the other hand, perhaps she is
seven now in CH time. (Geiger stated that he lost a patient seven years prior
under similar circumstances. That show aired five years ago in the fall of
1994, so I guess CH is not keeping the same time frame as the audience.)
Aaron was more interesting with Geiger around. (Or was it just David Kelley's
writing? Probably both.) I look forward to more interesting scenes with
Shutt and Geiger in the future. Even the usually boring Jack McNeil I found
much improved tonight-especially when he "took charge" when the Carla Gugino
character awkwardly broke the news to the wife of the liposuction patient.
The priest storyline seemed the least riveting, despite the tabloidesque ring
to it. (DEK does love stories about severed body parts, doesn't he?)
I'm not sure how much I like the new theme and opening titles yet, but they
beat the second ER-esque theme and titles on my scorecard. And I was happy to
hear the original theme for Chicago Hope incorporated into this new one. CH
should have never dropped the original theme at all (a jeer to Les Moonves).
phantm
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GenevaI'm transplanting my
comments from the ch newsgroup, so pardon any redundancies:
Not on par with episodes like Quarantine and Love and Hope from season
one, but
a good start nonetheless towards reviving this ailing show, IMO. It
was damn good to see Geiger roaming the hospital again and playing with
trains. I thought
Lauren Holly and Mandy Patinkin were the standouts as far as acting,
along with
Bruce Davison in an excellent guest turn. (I kind of wish Bruce
Davison would
stick around the show a while, despite the fact that he plays a doctor
who is
clearly careless.) I am not sure what to think of Dr. "Spa"ghetti yet.
(But
is it even possible for her to be as annoying as Kate Austin? I think
not.)
I liked the scenes with Geiger and his(/Birch's) daughter Alicia.
Seems to be
good chemistry there. Although the actress portraying Alicia appears
to be a
tad old for the role. Alicia was born in early 1995 as I recall
(January 1995
is when the birth episode aired, I believe). If CH is in real time
with the
audience, then she would be just shy of 5. On the other hand, perhaps
she is
seven now in CH time. (Geiger stated that he lost a patient seven
years prior
under similar circumstances. That show aired five years ago in the
fall of
1994, so I guess CH is not keeping the same time frame as the
audience.)
Aaron was more interesting with Geiger around. (Or was it just David
Kelley's
writing? Probably both.) I look forward to more interesting scenes
with
Shutt and Geiger in the future. Even the usually boring Jack McNeil I
found
much improved tonight-especially when he "took charge" when the Carla
Gugino
character awkwardly broke the news to the wife of the liposuction
patient.
The priest storyline seemed the least riveting, despite the
tabloidesque ring
to it. (DEK does love stories about severed body parts, doesn't he?)
I'm not sure how much I like the new theme and opening titles yet, but
they
beat the second ER-esque theme and titles on my scorecard. And I was
happy to
hear the original theme for Chicago Hope incorporated into this new
one. CH
should have never dropped the original theme at all (a jeer to Les
Moonves).
phantm
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Subject: Re: Mandy in CH
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 03:41:12 EDT
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But she wasn't. In the second episode of the second season, Alan says she's
eleven months old. Alan died in the eighth episode--before Christmas that
year. She was about 14 months old when Alan died. Listen to how they refer
to happenings from previous shows within the show. It's always, "last week,
you called me an ass", for example. I think this time warp was created
because DEK wanted an older Alicia who could talk intelligently. I don't
think he really counts on we the die-hard, detail-obsessed fans who
meticulously track these things. :)
Laura
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Subject: Mandy in CH: Nitpicking
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 00:42:05 -0700
Did everyone catch the two pairs of glasses Geiger whipped off at the
beginning of the M&M conference in tonight's episode?
I wish someone would tell Mandy that nobody does that but him! It was cute
(but kinda weird) in his concerts, it looked ridiculous and unexplainable in
Strange Justice, and now he's doing it in Chicago Hope! Can't the man find
an eye doctor who can prescribe him one pair of glasses that works for him?
And even if he really does need to wear two pairs at once, why do it in a
scene where he's playing a character and only pretending to read?
AND he's wearing his wedding ring again. (Looks like he took it off for
Elmo's movie, but not for CH). It would be fine if he were supposed to be
married but it doesn't look like he is. So what's his deal?
Wait, what am I thinking? This is Mandy, who likes to interject all kinds
of personal attributes into his characters. (I'm beginning to think he
never leaves home any more without his train set!)
Forget I said anything -- it was a lovely show! :-)
/ Joanne
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Subject: MP: Team Play
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 01:03:48 -0800
They are a bit fuzzy, but there are now screen caps from this episode at
the Mandy Patinkin Showcase.
phantm
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Subject: Mandy in CH: Nitpicking
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 00:56:20 -0700
Did everyone catch the two pairs of glasses Geiger whipped off at the
beginning of the M&M conference in tonight's episode?
I wish someone would tell Mandy that nobody does that but him! It was cute
(but kinda weird) in his concerts, it looked ridiculous and unexplainable in
Strange Justice, and now he's doing it in Chicago Hope! Can't the man find
an eye doctor who can prescribe him one pair of glasses that works for him?
And even if he really does need to wear two pairs at once, why do it in a
scene where he's playing a character and only pretending to read?
AND he's wearing his wedding ring again. (Looks like he took it off for
Elmo's movie, but not for CH). It would be fine if he were supposed to be
married but it doesn't look like he is. So what's his deal?
Wait, what am I thinking? This is Mandy, who likes to interject all kinds
of personal attributes into his characters. (I'm beginning to think he
never leaves home any more without his train set!)
Forget I said anything -- it was a lovely show! :-)
/ Joanne
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Subject: Fwd:Mandy in CH
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 01:07:27 -0700
Joanne wrote:
>>And as for Alicia: MY favorite scene was at the end when she climbed up and
>>cuddled with him -- LUCKY little girl!!!
I had a feeling I wasn't alone with that thought at that moment :> Carol
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Subject: MP: New CH theme
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 18:29:43 +1000
Phantm wrote:
>>>I'm not sure how much I like the new theme and opening titles yet, but
they beat the second ER-esque theme and titles on my scorecard. And I was
happy to hear the original theme for Chicago Hope incorporated into this
new one.
Is anyone able to record the new theme as a .wav file and send it to me as
an attachment, please? You've got me intrigued and I don't particularly
want to wait until February sometime before I can hear it for myself!
Please let me know!
Talking of that sort of thing - has everyone (who can) downloaded the
little video clip of MP & KG from Men With Guns (from the official site)?
It's quite good! :)
SueH
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Subject: Re: MP: Team Play screen caps
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 19:24:22 +1000
Phantm wrote:
>They are a bit fuzzy, but there are now screen caps from this episode at
>the Mandy Patinkin Showcase.
I didn't think they were fuzzy at all! Thanks for those - they'll help tide
me over for the next 4-5 months. So many lovely close-ups, too! :)
That's another 20 pics (plus the "biscard" 'divider') for my CH slide show
screensaver! (Which now totals 234).
SueH
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Subject: Re: more reviews
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 08:58:15 -0500
The actor's name is Alan Rosenberg. He played Cybill's ex-husband, Ira on "Cybill"
and also played Eli on both "Civil Wars" and "L.A. Law"
Tara
theatre-gazer wrote:
> Does anyone know where I can obtain a copy of tonight's full cast list?
> I am interested in finding out the name of the actor playing the
> attorney who represented the hospital. The one with the nasal voice.
> Thanks
>
> Jason in Phoenix<-----found out wednesday he can't see Mandy in concert
> in November, due to a show conflict...;-(
>
> [email protected] wrote:
> >
> > In a message dated 9/23/99 8:12:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> > [email protected] writes:
> >
> > << What is clear is that he should appear in as many scenes as possible; he's
> > what distinguishes "CH" from everything else on TV."
> > >>
> >
> > I hope Mandy sees this one.......at least he's getting good reviews, if not
> > the show. We, of course, know that Mandy distinguishes himself from
> > everything else - no matter what we are doing. Nobody holds a flame next to
> > our man if he puts his heart into it. We love you mandy, oh yes we
> > do......
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